========================================================================= Date: Mon, 3 May 1993 13:10:26 ECT Reply-To: Indexer's Discussion Group Sender: Indexer's Discussion Group From: "BITNET list server at BINGVMB (1.7f)" Subject: INDEX-L: error report from NIHCU RE: Indexing and Macs > One of our faculty members needs to produce a 10 year index for a journal > he publishes. This is pretty standard stuff: author, title, subject. The > problem is that he wants to do it on a Macintosh, and all of our indexing > software and my knowledge is based on IBM. Any help would be greatly > appreciated. > Mary Sue Stephenson > School of Library, Archival and Information Studies > The University of British Columbia > Vancouver > > mss@unixg.ubc.ca > 604-822-6392 This may prove my ignorance of indexing requirements (I am an archivist), but could not you use Filemaker or Fourth Dimension to produce the index. The former is a flat file database system. The latter is a relational database management system. Both offer good indexing capabilities and tremendous flexibility in the format of any output. Both products have been available for the MAC for some time Mark Conrad Archivist National Archives Center for Electronic Records Washington, DC 20408 C4L@cu.nih.gov. C4L@NUHCU ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 3 May 1993 13:12:45 ECT Reply-To: Michael Kalen Smith Sender: Indexer's Discussion Group From: Michael Kalen Smith Subject: Re: Fax Machines ----------------------------Original message---------------------------- >I was just wondering whether indexers (especially those who are exclusively >indexers) have much use for fax machines. (A friend has suggested I should >have a fax-modem if I'm operating a small business.) I can't imagine the >indexer or the publisher wanting to fax an entire page-proof set. I >*suppose* you might be in a hurry during the negotiating process and want >to fax an agreement/specs for approval. Am I missing something? Feel free >to respond privately so as not to pester everybody with trivial mail. > >Carol Roberts >Publications Services >Cornell University >cjr2@cornell.edu >607 255-9454 I don't think this is trivial (fax machines are expensive) so I'll post a reply publicly. I have a fax modem (just upgraded to a new 14,400 model, in fact) which I use pretty regularly -- but not to sent copies of index text. I also do evaluations of contemplated publications for outfits like Gale Research and Greenwood; they require rapid turnaround and since my report is usually only 4-6pp. long, faxing it makes sense. I also fax invoices, bids for jobs, etc.; all the usual business stuff. But I doubt if copyeditors & managing editors at the university presses for whom I mostly do back-of-book work would stand for 40-100pp. of thermal fax paper curling up on their desks. Have you ever tried to edit on that stuff? Besides, these days they nearly always want the index on disk as well as a print copy, and they're perfectly willing to pay the $13.50 for next-afternoon Federal Express.... Mike ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Michael Kalen Smith / Dallas, TX Internet: mksmith@taproot.win.net / CompuServe: 73177,366 *** It doesn't TAKE all kinds; we just HAVE all kinds *** ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 3 May 1993 13:17:53 ECT Reply-To: Indexer's Discussion Group Sender: Indexer's Discussion Group From: Anne Lobe Subject: independent librarians ----------------------------Original message---------------------------- The following message has been cross-posted to AUTOCAT, ARCHIVES, ARLIS, BUSLIB, INDEX, LIBPER, MLA, MEDLIB, and NOTRBCAT. Please excuse any duplication. I am doing a survey for a research paper on professional librarians who do contract cataloging or research with libraries, vendors or private organizations. If you are interested in participating in this survey, please respond to me via email or at the address below and I will send you a copy of the survey. If there is enough interest, I will summarize for the list. Anne Lobe WLN PO Box 3888 Lacey, WA 98503-0888 1 800 DIAL WLN (800 342 5956) voice 206 923 4009 fax lobe@wln.com Internet lobe@wln.com ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 3 May 1993 13:18:23 ECT Reply-To: Michael Kalen Smith Sender: Indexer's Discussion Group From: Michael Kalen Smith Subject: Re: Fax Machines or e-mail/ftp ----------------------------Original message---------------------------- >----------------------------Original message---------------------------- >Has anyone used e-mail or ftp as a substitute for the fax machine or fax >modem? What results have you had? > >Smith, Neva J. >dba DataSmiths Information Services >njsmith@emx.cc.utexas.edu Maybe this is a bit cynical, but I wonder how many managing editors are tech-savvy enough to handle ftp ... or even email? I find myself still explaining to editors of long experience, at publishers like Harcourt, why I can't read the Macintosh-produced draft index the author gave them on my PC! Mike ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Michael Kalen Smith / Dallas, TX Internet: mksmith@taproot.win.net / CompuServe: 73177,366 *** It doesn't TAKE all kinds; we just HAVE all kinds *** ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 3 May 1993 13:18:47 ECT Reply-To: Indexer's Discussion Group Sender: Indexer's Discussion Group From: mrowland@aol.com Subject: Re: Fax Machines or e-ma... ----------------------------Original message---------------------------- Regarding fax machines and email-- I have a modem, a fax machine, and a fax modem (in my laptop). I have never used the fax part of the fax modem, though I imagine it would have its advantages. I have, of late, had to fax many 20 page documents, and 2 or 3 pages are always going through together, causing me to have to stand there by the machine, monitoring everything. Still, I find a stand-alone fax for incoming faxes to be very convenient. It is also necessary for faxing documents not produced on your computer (newspaper articles, etc.). Most of my faxing is not specifically indexing related (I am also a writer), but I have found it invaluable for receiving omitted or changed pages from page proofs. Once I faxed an entire index to the publisher. I find, in general, publishers are not able to recieve files by modem. I did work with one packager via the email, and sent 3 indexes by uploading files this way. He told me he had recently received an index from India via the Internet. I recently indexed a book about personalizing your computer which included a reference to the early days of the telephone: It's such a wonderful invention that I can foresee the day when every city will have one! And, of course, once you get a fax and start using it, you'll probably soon need another phone line, if you don't already have one for your modem. Marilyn Rowland freelance indexer/writer Duxbury Massachusetts mrowland@aol.com mrowland@well.sf.ca.us ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 5 May 1993 16:33:16 ECT Reply-To: Indexer's Discussion Group Sender: Indexer's Discussion Group From: Carol Roberts Subject: Indexing Community ----------------------------Original message---------------------------- Last week I was discussing (off-list) with someone the nurturing atmosphere on the indexing list, and I likened it to utopian novels I've read, _Herland_ in particular. I'm embarrassed to admit I was trigger-happy last week and, well, trashed the message asking for more info about the book. The book was written by Charlotte Perkins Gilman and is quite old (late 19th century, maybe). I belong to a handful of lists, and this one gets the prize for approximating a utopian community. -- Carol Roberts Publications Services Cornell University cjr2@cornell.edu 607 255-9454 Practice random kindness and senseless acts of beauty. =========================================================================