========================================================================= Date: Tue, 1 Mar 1994 15:56:41 ECT Reply-To: Indexer's Discussion Group Sender: Indexer's Discussion Group From: Gwendolyn Waldorf Subject: SKY INDEX ----------------------------Original message---------------------------- SKY Index was reviewed in the ASI newsletter Sept/Oct 1991. That was before I joined; does anyone have the issue? I am contemplating a purchase and would like to know what the review had to say. (SKY was not included in A Guide to Indexing Software/Fetters/ASI except on a list of genealogical indexing software) Thanks -- Gwendolyn Waldorf gwndlyn@freenet.tlh.fl.us ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 1 Mar 1994 15:56:59 ECT Reply-To: Indexer's Discussion Group Sender: Indexer's Discussion Group From: "Barbara E. Cohen" Subject: Call for Papers ----------------------------Original message---------------------------- The Australian Society of Indexers has issued a call for papers for the 1995 "Indexers-Partners in Publishing" conference in Marysville, Australia. Please send your name, address, and phone number (also fax and e-mail) and your suggested topic to: Australian Society of Indexers Conference Programme Committee GPO Box 1251 Melbourne, Victoria 3001 AUSTRALIA Key themes will be: International perspective on indexing Legal indexing Computer-assisted indexing Publishing perspective on indexing Education for indexing Indexing of image and electronic media Respectfully submitted, Barbara E. Cohen Secretary, ASI (1993-95) (becohen@well.sf.ca.us) ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 1 Mar 1994 15:57:30 ECT Reply-To: Indexer's Discussion Group Sender: Indexer's Discussion Group From: Lori Lathrop <76620.456@CompuServe.COM> Subject: Master Index of Books and Audio Tapes ----------------------------Original message---------------------------- As a traditional back-of-the-book indexer, I now find myself in a difficult situation: How to I give a client a quote for creating a master index of 15 books and 70 audio tapes? And, more importantly, since audio tapes do not have page references, what is the standard format for creating an index entry for a client who wants to capture every reference to certain keywords on audio tapes? Lori Lathrop Lathrop Media Services Georgetown, CO 80444 ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 1 Mar 1994 15:58:18 ECT Reply-To: Indexer's Discussion Group Sender: Indexer's Discussion Group From: maryann@mnrosdp.revisor.leg.state.mn.us Subject: Re: A Probably Naieve ??? In-Reply-To: Your message of "Mon, 28 Feb 94 10:51:08 +0700." ----------------------------Original message---------------------------- This is another reply to Paul Z. He wrote: It has occasionally come to me that I am indexing works that I comprehend to, let's say, the 75% level. I can tell what the text is about, when they shift topics, and what they call whatever it is. In addition, I often have guides from the author as to what stuff ought to be called. But my questions are... Does this situation happen to others? Assuming that other indexers get books in which they do not grasp absolutely everything going on, is there such a thing as "responsible levels of ignorance" in indexing? When does one "wing it" Whan necessary, what is the most professionally responsible and gracious way to "bail out" to ones editor? ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- My business is the indexing of statutory text, the meaning of which alters every year with amendments, editorial changes and sometimes court decisions. There is no way an indexer can responsibly index it without help from the people who draft it, so we ask for help frequently. We also make use of written mater- ials that tell us what the legislature was trying to do, like bill summaries and legislative history. Paul Z.'s question seems important to me because it touches on two ongoing debates among indexers. The first is the debate between those who believe that the only responsible indexer is a subject expert, and those who believe that the work of indexing is so important as a way for people (especially women) to take control of their earning lives that it should not be restricted to subject experts. A good example of this debate appeared as a set of letters to the editor in KeyWords (the ASI newsletter) a few issues back. The second debate is the one between those publishers who believe that the best (and for them, the most convenient) indexer of a book is its author, and freelance indexers who believe that a professional indexer will pick up concepts that the author would gloss over. Because of those two debates, it's politically difficult to give an honest answer to Paul Z.'s question. In my gut I agree with Norman Howden: If you don't understand important methodologies or term relationships, you should get help or beg off the project. I think, though, that indexers fear doing that because it could put editors off and impede the building of a freelance business. Also, if we insist that only a subject expert can do a proper job, we discourage small presses from hiring freelancers. (After all, what they often do now is have authors do their own indexes, and authors are subject experts.) The only way out of this tangle is more cooperation between expert and neophyte indexers, and between subject experts and indexers. Review of an index by a knowledgeable user would be a good idea. Can editors be persuaded to build in time for such a review? What do others think about this? ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 1 Mar 1994 15:59:12 ECT Reply-To: Indexer's Discussion Group Sender: Indexer's Discussion Group From: drumhill@aol.com Subject: Re: A Probably Naiev... ----------------------------Original message---------------------------- I often run into situations where I'm somewhat in the dark about parts of what I'm indexing, even though I may be geneally famiar with the field. There are at least ltwo approaches that can be taken. One is to pick up what seem to be strong concepts by gauging how many times a particular word or phrase is use. However, I prefer to do some research and educate myself. When that's impossible or impractical, I'll call the editor before I'll make a guess that could ruin the index for the user. I hate to call editors and admit that I don't know, especially since I work in a very narrow field. But I hate even worse the possibility that the editor looking at a completed index which includes some guesswork will think even worse of my work than if I'd asked in the first instance. Jim ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 4 Mar 1994 10:23:31 ECT Reply-To: Indexer's Discussion Group Sender: Indexer's Discussion Group From: "Crystal D. Hall" Subject: training ----------------------------Original message---------------------------- I am a librarian and have recently become a member of ASI. I have a rare type of muscular dystrophy which causes gradual but progressive muscle weakness. For this reason I have been looking into the possibility of becoming a freelance indexer so I could work out of my home. I am considering taking the USDA Basic Indexing course, and would appreciate comments about the quality of the course. Has anyone taken it? I notice the faculty are ASI members. Would a hands-on course be better? I also have the option of taking an 8-week indexing course at Florida State University School of Library and Information studies. This course includes using computers and the instructor uses Q & A ver. 4.0 software. Any comments, suggestions? Thanks, Crystal D. Hall hallcd@freenet.scri.fsu.edu ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 4 Mar 1994 10:24:39 ECT Reply-To: Indexer's Discussion Group Sender: Indexer's Discussion Group From: Fred Rowley Subject: Master Index Of Books and Audio Tapes ----------------------------Original message---------------------------- When indexing audio cassettes--Time is the reliable index to use unless all the listeners play back their tapes on the same make and model machine, in which case you can index using the same machine's counter. Unless you have a cassette player with a digital time counter, a practical and inexpensive way to precisely index audiotapes by hours: minutes: seconds, is to transfer their sound onto VHS or 8mm (home) video tapes. You'll need a video recorder with a digital display. Newer, higher-end machines are likely to have such a electronic frame counter. Before you start indexing, set the video frame counter at zero when you hear the cassette's opening spiel. Once the counter is set you'll be to able zap back and forth without fear of loosing time or track. If you plan to create individual tape indexes and they have quite a few headings, listeners may prefer to have a chronological index. A sequential list shows the flow of concepts on the tape and their relative position on the cassette, contrasted with an alphabetical index which displays the time counts out of sequence. A sequential index can be used by listeners who lack a time counter on their cassette player (most players have no time counter). They find information by forwarding the tape to the approximate spot. Then they listen for index cues in the spot where they landed. Next, by consulting your sequential index, they figure out where to go next to retrieve the sound bytes they're after. Incidentally, this might be an occasion where creating multiple indexes makes sense. Alphabetical indexes merge and conveniently show concepts present on every tape, and a combined alphabetical subject index can easily be made for the entire tape collection. It may also be appropriate to create chronological indexes to help listeners more easily retrive sound passages. Having fairly detailled individual indexes might also spare the publisher from having to include full transcripts of the tapes, which is sometimes done with educational audio programs. Fred Rowley ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 4 Mar 1994 10:25:29 ECT Reply-To: Indexer's Discussion Group Sender: Indexer's Discussion Group From: Eliza Mcleod ----------------------------Original message---------------------------- Does anyone have advice and/or experience indexing poetry?...any articles you might recommend? You may reply to me ejmcleod@suvm.syr.edu Thank you in advance(-: Eliza McLeod ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 4 Mar 1994 10:26:58 ECT Reply-To: Indexer's Discussion Group Sender: Indexer's Discussion Group From: Michael Schwantner Subject: Re: automatic abstracting ----------------------------Original message---------------------------- Re: John Cunningham's question on automatic abstracting. Here are some more references to literature, which describe mostly theoretical aspects of automatic abstracting: Black, W.J.; Johnson, F.C. A practical evaluation of two rule-based automatic abstracting techniques. Expert Systems for Information Management (1988) vol.1, no.3, p.159-77. Black, W. J. Knowledge-based abstracting. Online review; The international journal of online information systems. (1990) v. 14(5) p. 327-340. 6 Abb. Craven, T. C. An interactive aid for coding of sentence dependency structures. Science (SLIS), The Canadian journal of information science (1989) V. 14 (3) p. 32-41. Hutchins, J. Summarization: some problems and methods (abstracting). Meaning: The Frontier of Informatics - INFORMATICS 9. Proceedings of a Conference. Editor(s): Jones, K.P. London, UK: Aslib, 1987. p.151-73 of ix+181 pp. 33 refs. Paice, C. D. Constructing literature abstracts by computer. Techniques and prospects. Information processing and management. (1990) V. 26 (1) p. 171-186. Rush, J.E.; Salvador, R.; Zamora, A. Automatic abstracting and indexing. II. Production of indicative abstracts by application of contextual inference and syntactic coherence criteria. Journal of the American Society for Information Sciences (July-Aug. 1971) vol.22, no.4, p.260-74. Wellisch, H. H. Indexing and abstracting 1977-1981. An international bibliography. Santa Barbara, CA, US: ABC-Clio Information Services: 1984, 295 p. ISBN: 0-87436-398-5 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Dr. Michael Schwantner FIZ Karlsruhe (STN International) Abt. Entwicklung Postfach 2465 Tel. : +49-7247-808260 D-76012 Karlsruhe Fax. : +49-7247-808131 Germany eMail: msc0h@fizvax.kfk.de --------------------------------------------------------------------------- ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 4 Mar 1994 10:28:01 ECT Reply-To: Indexer's Discussion Group Sender: Indexer's Discussion Group From: Pat Pate Subject: Re: Master Index of Books and Audio Tapes ----------------------------Original message---------------------------- This was audible even on fast forward. Perhaps this could be added on these tap es. Just an idea. ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 4 Mar 1994 10:29:21 ECT Reply-To: Indexer's Discussion Group Sender: Indexer's Discussion Group From: Cammie Donaldson ----------------------------Original message---------------------------- Subject: Technical Manual Indexing Thanks to all the folks who have contributed good ideas in response to my original inquiry. Those interested in technical manual indexing might want to look at an article entitled "Indexes in Computer Documentation," by Sandra Osler, in the latest STC journal (Journal of the Society for Technical Communication), Vol. 41, #1, Feb. 1994. I've just glanced at it thus far, but one good idea present in the article is planning for the index - that is, thinking about the index when you organize the manual. Indexing my reference manual has actually been easier than referencing an earlier tutorial document, about 1/5 of the size, because we've paid lots of attention to good, detailed organization and mechanisms that aid scanning the pages (captions & figures that can be indexed). Surprisingly, I found no mention of ASI or ASI literature in the article or its bibliography. It may be that the author or reviewers are ASI members, however. One assumption the article presents is that there are multiple types of indexes for computer documentation. The article suggests but does not take an outright stand on the use of multiple indexes within a single document. The overwhelming response from INDEX-L readers to my original inquiry was to NOT use multiple indexes. I'll be interested to hear the "professionals" on the list comment on the contents of this article. Cammie Donaldson indexer-to-be, technical writer, programmer, and net fan :-) ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 4 Mar 1994 16:46:05 ECT Reply-To: Indexer's Discussion Group Sender: Indexer's Discussion Group From: Lori Lathrop <76620.456@CompuServe.COM> Subject: Technical Manual Indexing ----------------------------Original message---------------------------- Cammie Donaldson writes > I'll be interested to hear the "professionals" on the list comment > on the contents of this article. I am also a member of the Society for Technical Communication (STC) and, when I received the Journal this week, I immediately read Sandra Oster's article, "Indexes in Computer Documentation." Although the article does not go into as much depth as it could have, I think the author did an excellent job. I especially liked her examples (presented in Tables) and her advice on designing the index early in the development cycle and making sure that the terminology is consistent. One of the things I say when I teach my Indexing Skills workshop is, "Variations on a theme are great in music but not when you're creating indexes for technical documentation!" I'd recommend Sandra Oster's article to anyone interested in indexing computer documentation. Lori Lathrop --------------> INTERNET:76620.456@compuserve.com Lathrop Media Services or LMLathrop@aol.com Georgetown, CO ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 4 Mar 1994 16:48:23 ECT Reply-To: Indexer's Discussion Group Sender: Indexer's Discussion Group From: Lori Lathrop <76620.456@CompuServe.COM> Subject: Audio Tapes ----------------------------Original message---------------------------- Thanks to all who responded to me privately and on this list regarding my questions on creating a master index of books and audio tapes. One person suggested that the client send me samples of the audio tapes -- and the client has agreed to do that -- so I can determine the quality of the tapes and the quality of the speaker(s) before I submit my bid on the project. At this point, I'm tempted to create two master indexes -- one for the books and one for the audio tapes -- plus a chronological index for the audio tapes, as suggested by Fred Rowley ... but I'll mull that over a bit before making a decision. Creating two master indexes would, of course, make billing a little more straight-forward since I could use my standard "per page" rate for the books and use a "time + materials" rate for indexing the audio tapes (with the help of some high-quality equipment and a counter). BTW, the audio tapes are recordings of meetings and lectures, and they [the tapes] are not "professional" recordings. If any of you have indexed nonprint materials, I would appreciate feedback on how to set fees. Thanks again. Lori Lathrop ---------------> INTERNET:76620.456@compuserve.com Lathrop Media Services or LMLathrop@aol.com P.O. Box 808 Georgetown, CO 80444 (303)567-4011 ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 4 Mar 1994 16:50:09 ECT Reply-To: Indexer's Discussion Group Sender: Indexer's Discussion Group From: lmlathrop@aol.com Subject: Virtual Meeting - CO ASI Chapter ----------------------------Original message---------------------------- INVITATION TO VIRTUALLY ATTEND THE COLORADO CHAPTER ASI MEETING If any of you on INDEX-L subscribe to America Online (AOL), you are invited to virtually attend the Colorado chapter of ASIL DATE: April 9, 1994 TIME: 1 PM MST (that's 3 PM EST) PLACE: a private chat area on AOL called AprilASI To access the chat area: (1) Enter +, (2) Click on ROOMS, (3) Click on PRIVATE ROOM, (4) Enter "AprilASI" (without quotes) and press the key. The topic of the meeting is "Online Services and the Internet" and I'm sure the Colorado members of ASI would enjoy chatting with you online. Lori Lathrop (host of April ASI meeting) Lathrop Media Services P.O. Box 808 Georgetown, CO 80444 (303)567-4011 (office phone) (303)567-9533 (home phone) INTERNET:LMLathrop@aol.com or 76620.456@compuserve.com ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 4 Mar 1994 16:50:54 ECT Reply-To: Indexer's Discussion Group Sender: Indexer's Discussion Group From: Michael Kalen Smith Subject: Re: training In-Reply-To: <199403041525.AA07988@metronet.com> ----------------------------Original message---------------------------- Well, the Univ of Texas wasn't offering courses in indexing back in 1970 when I got my MLS, so I'm entirely self-taught in that subject (as I am in computers, and for the same reason). I've heard very good things about the USDA course from several people who have completed it ... but I imagine it boils down to whether you're the sort of person who *can* learn at home, on your own, from printed materials. I suspect a classroom course would be preferable for *most* people because of the immediate feedback, etc. I would hope they'd introduce students to some kind of specific indexing software a little more germane than Q&A, though. Michael K. Smith mksmith@metronet.com +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ It doesn't TAKE all kinds, we just HAVE all kinds ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 4 Mar 1994 16:51:30 ECT Reply-To: Indexer's Discussion Group Sender: Indexer's Discussion Group From: Michael Kalen Smith Subject: Re: your mail In-Reply-To: <199403041543.AA09553@metronet.com> ----------------------------Original message---------------------------- On Fri, 4 Mar 1994, Eliza Mcleod wrote: > ----------------------------Original message---------------------------- > Does anyone have advice and/or experience indexing poetry?...any articles > you might recommend? > > Eliza McLeod Do you mean other than by author, title, and first line? Subject-indexing poetry could get awfully iffy, I suspect -- esp if you're doing people like Dylan Thomas, e.e. cummings, and Allen Ginzberg! Michael K. Smith mksmith@metronet.com +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ It doesn't TAKE all kinds, we just HAVE all kinds ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 4 Mar 1994 16:52:05 ECT Reply-To: Indexer's Discussion Group Sender: Indexer's Discussion Group From: maryann@mnrosdp.revisor.leg.state.mn.us Subject: Re: Multiple/segmented indexes In-Reply-To: Your message of "Wed, 16 Feb 94 10:06:07 +0700." ----------------------------Original message---------------------------- Here is a belated addition to the discussion about single vs. multiple indexes. One more type of work in which multiple indexes are traditional and seem to work is in hymnals. Typically there are indexes of hymn titles, first lines, hymn tune names (e.g. Hyfrydol), meters (which are expressed with sequences of numbers), & hymns organized by liturgical season, by type of liturgical celebra- tion (baptism, confirmation, funeral etc.) and by theme, image, or key word, and by scriptural citation (the words of scripture that the hymn repeats or alludes to). So why does this work? One big reason is that the indexes are there for the musical professionals with training in hymnody. They use the different indexes to solve different problems of finding or adapting hymns for a particular rite. The problem of finding the hymn page when you know the first line is different from the problem of finding an alternate set of words to go with a given tune, and also different from the problem of finding a hymn text to go with a sermon on a specific theme. I suspect that the practice of making all these separate indexes comes from the days in which it would have been difficult and expensive to set one index in enough different typefaces to distinguish, say, first lines from titles from hymn tune names. It would no longer be difficult to do this, but I think it would by typographically ugly and hard to read. Maybe a good research project would be to create a unified index from an exist- ing set of hymnal indexes and see if an untrained general reader can use it more successfully than the separate indexes. Maryann Corbett ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 4 Mar 1994 16:53:47 ECT Reply-To: Indexer's Discussion Group Sender: Indexer's Discussion Group From: ginnad@aol.com Subject: Re: SKY INDEX ----------------------------Original message---------------------------- By the way, this software is intended for genealogical indexers but can be used for other indexing. It is $74.95 + $4 and available from SKY Software, PO Box 394, Maine NY 13802-0394. The article reviews Version 3.0. Another product is on it's way - SKY Professional. Hope this is helpful. ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 7 Mar 1994 14:14:14 ECT Reply-To: Indexer's Discussion Group Sender: Indexer's Discussion Group From: AnnMarie Mitchell Subject: Re: Multiple/segmented indexes In-Reply-To: <9403042156.AA26321@library.Berkeley.EDU> ----------------------------Original message---------------------------- Although I previously sent a reply (as part of a different discussion here) in which I asserted that a single index is better than several (for authors, subjects, places), I'd hate to see the hymnal indexes changed. In general, it seems unwise to force people to look in more than one place, unless there are compelling reasons for doing so. Hymns are completely different, though, because the user probably is looking for a specific sort of information and knows what that sort is, as the answer below so aptly explains. While it's true that if I can't find another set of words to fit my tune, I may decide to start over and search for completely different tune to fit the liturgical year, for example, usually I'm either looking for a tune or words or subject or ... So, perhaps sometimes several separate indexes are indeed better. AnnMarie Mitchell Research Services and Collection Development Dept. University of California at Berkeley On Fri, 4 Mar 1994 maryann@mnrosdp.revisor.leg.state.mn.us wrote: > ----------------------------Original message---------------------------- > Here is a belated addition to the discussion about single vs. multiple indexes . > One more type of work in which multiple indexes are traditional and seem to wo rk > is in hymnals. Typically there are indexes of hymn titles, first lines, hymn > tune names (e.g. Hyfrydol), meters (which are expressed with sequences of > numbers), & hymns organized by liturgical season, by type of liturgical celebr a- > tion (baptism, confirmation, funeral etc.) and by theme, image, or key word, > and by scriptural citation (the words of scripture that the hymn repeats or > alludes to). > > So why does this work? One big reason is that the indexes are there for the > musical professionals with training in hymnody. They use the different indexes > to solve different problems of finding or adapting hymns for a particular rite . > The problem of finding the hymn page when you know the first line is different > from the problem of finding an alternate set of words to go with a given tune, > and also different from the problem of finding a hymn text to go with a sermon > on a specific theme. > > I suspect that the practice of making all these separate indexes comes from th e > days in which it would have been difficult and expensive to set one index in > enough different typefaces to distinguish, say, first lines from titles from > hymn tune names. It would no longer be difficult to do this, but I think it > would by typographically ugly and hard to read. > > Maybe a good research project would be to create a unified index from an exist - > ing set of hymnal indexes and see if an untrained general reader can use it > more successfully than the separate indexes. > > Maryann Corbett ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 7 Mar 1994 14:14:35 ECT Reply-To: Indexer's Discussion Group Sender: Indexer's Discussion Group From: Georgianna Subject: Re: Multiple/segmented indexes In-Reply-To: Message of Fri, 4 Mar 1994 16:52:05 ECT from ----------------------------Original message---------------------------- I have compiled an ecumencial index of scripture used as lyrics in hymns (frequently this is one of the indexes in hymnals). I included 14 hymnals from a variety of denominations plus a couple of commercial publications (the book of Godspell was one). It was easy and interesting to compile and almost everyone (the exception was one publisher) who has seen it agrees it's a very useful idea. It's a little over 200 pages and allows the user to see which hymnals has which verses from scropture ans also to look from the other point of view - which verses are (and are not) found in hymnals. Alas, it languishes unpublished. Georgianna Henry University of Mississippi ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 7 Mar 1994 14:14:54 ECT Reply-To: Indexer's Discussion Group Sender: Indexer's Discussion Group From: hairylarry@aol.com Subject: Re: Master Index Of Books and Audio Tapes ----------------------------Original message---------------------------- I agree that multiple indexes for audio tapes make good sense, except, of course, the chronological list is really a Table of Contents!! Regards, Larry Harrison ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 7 Mar 1994 14:15:15 ECT Reply-To: Indexer's Discussion Group Sender: Indexer's Discussion Group From: "Neva J. Smith (DataSmiths Information Services)" Subject: Re: training In-Reply-To: <199403041525.AA16834@zoom.bga.com>; from "Crystal D. Hall" at Mar 4, 94 10:23 am ----------------------------Original message---------------------------- Welcome to the world of freelancing! I'm both a freelance librarian (special) and a freelance indexer. I took my indexing course at the University of Texas while obtaining my Master's in Library and Information Science. I am probably biased as a result. I especially liked having a professional indexer (freelance, 15 years) as my instructor. I continue to sound out ideas with her, and bring her my problems related to indexing AND freelancing. Look up your local/regional ASI chapter-- Florida/Georgia contact is Hazel Blumberg-McKee (904) 942-7649. You may be able to find a practicing freelancer who may be willing to mentor you as you take a correspondence course. Best of luck whichever way you go, and remember to have fun with it! > = - * - = < = > = - * - = < = > = - * - = < = > = - * - = < = Neva J. Smith, MLIS DataSmiths Information Services PO Box 2157 / Round Rock, TX 78680 email: njsmith@bga.com voice: (512) 244-2767 Editor, _Library Currents_ PO Box 2199 / Round Rock, TX 78680 Crystal D. Hall : : ----------------------------Original message---------------------------- : I am a librarian and have recently become a member of ASI. I have a rare : type of muscular dystrophy which causes gradual but progressive muscle : weakness. For this reason I have been looking into the possibility of : becoming a freelance indexer so I could work out of my home. : : I am considering taking the USDA Basic Indexing course, and would : appreciate comments about the quality of the course. Has anyone taken it? : Would a hands-on course be better? I also have the option of taking an : 8-week indexing course at Florida State University School of Library and : Information studies. This course includes using computers and the : instructor uses Q & A ver. 4.0 software. : : Any comments, suggestions? : Thanks, : Crystal D. Hall : hallcd@freenet.scri.fsu.edu : Neva J. Smith DataSmiths Information Services, & njsmith@bga.com Editor, _Library_Currents_ ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 7 Mar 1994 14:15:35 ECT Reply-To: Indexer's Discussion Group Sender: Indexer's Discussion Group From: Paula Presley Subject: Re: Hymnay indexes & indexer personality In-Reply-To: In reply to your message of FRI 04 MAR 1994 18:39:36 CST ----------------------------Original message---------------------------- Last year at ASI meeting, Dorothy Thomas neatly demonstrated that there are certain personality traits shared by indexers--a sort of "indexer personality." That information and the recent mention of hymnal indexes makes me wax sentimental. Did anyone else share this experience: As a child I used to entertain myself during the sermon by reading all those marvelous indexes in the hymnals!! Through those indexes I learned an awfully lot about music. My mother marvelled at my musical knowledge even though ours was a non-musical family and there were no music classes in my elementary school. I had forgotten how much fun it was to read those indexes until the discussion about hymnal indexes. (I'd hate to see those marvelous indexes become unified!!) :-) Paula Presley Assoc. Editor, The Thomas Jefferson University Press Copy Editor, The Sixteenth Century Journal Northeast Missouri State University McClain Hall 111L Kirksville, MO 63501 (816) 785-4525 FAX (816) 785-4181 Bitnet: AD15@NEMOMUS Internet: AD15%NEMOMUS@Academic.NEMOState.EDU ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 7 Mar 1994 14:18:39 ECT Reply-To: Indexer's Discussion Group Sender: Indexer's Discussion Group From: john mccallum S Subject: Re: your mail In-Reply-To: <9403042247.AA15575@mach1.wlu.ca> ----------------------------Original message---------------------------- One interesting quirk of poetry indexes is the filing by article (a, an, the) if it is the first word of a line. =========================================================================