Date: Fri, 15 Apr 1994 15:50:08 ECT Reply-To: Indexer's Discussion Group Sender: Indexer's Discussion Group From: Carolyn Kidder Subject: Re: Printer recommendations ----------------------------Original message---------------------------- Paula, I just purchased a new computer and printer for my home office. The printer I purchased is an HP deskjet printer, I believe the number was 550C. It prints colors and many different fonts (we also purchased a Fantastic Fonts CD-rom, and while testing it out I have been able to use all of the fonts I want). It certainly doesn't print as crisply as the laser printers I have access to at work, but I have been quite pleased with it so far. It also was available in my price range, between $300 and $400. Since you don't have to invest in the entire computer system, it might be worth your while to get the lazer printer. Hope this helps. Carolyn Kidder cf470@cray.com ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 15 Apr 1994 15:50:38 ECT Reply-To: Indexer's Discussion Group Sender: Indexer's Discussion Group From: Paula Presley Subject: Re[2]: Printer recommendations In-Reply-To: In reply to your message of MON 11 APR 1994 16:28:40 CST ----------------------------Original message---------------------------- I thank all of you who have replied through INDEXER-L or privately about low-end printers. I suppose I should have told you that at work I use and manage a LaserMaster Unity 1200xl, which produces wonderful camera-ready material (esp. on Hammermill 24 lb. paper designed for that). The LaserMaster has 20 mb harddisk, and it can work off Macs and MS-DOS at the same time. My interest was in really low-end printers (but above 24 pin)...I knew nothing about them....now I do. Thank you so much; I think I'll get an ibnkjet for home use. Paula Presley Assoc. Editor, The Thomas Jefferson University Press Copy Editor, The Sixteenth Century Journal Northeast Missouri State University McClain Hall 111L Kirksville, MO 63501 (816) 785-4525 FAX (816) 785-4181 Bitnet: AD15@NEMOMUS Internet: AD15%NEMOMUS@Academic.NEMOState.EDU ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 15 Apr 1994 15:51:21 ECT Reply-To: Indexer's Discussion Group Sender: Indexer's Discussion Group From: "Stephen E. Bach" Subject: printers ----------------------------Original message---------------------------- Each year PC Magazine devotes most of an issue to printer reviews. Their most recent was 11/23/93. I would recommend that you find that issue because it is informative in many ways. They consider printers in the following groups: mainstream lasers, network lasers, color printers, ink jets, and dot matrix. Hewlett-Packard has consistently been rated very highly if not at the top for its laser printers. I bought a LaserJet4 and have not been disappointed. I do have a plain paper Canon fax machine which uses ink jet technology. If ink jets give output such as does my fax machine I would say a problem with them is 'spreading' of the ink on the paper. It may be, however, that Canon puts better ink jet technology in their printers than they do in their fax machines. The PC Magazine cited above DID give their 'Editor's Choice' award in the ink jet category to the Canon BJ-200. I assume most on-line services have forums devoted to printers where you could probably get much more help than you will find here. On the WELL, for example, there is a printers conference (g print). Stephen Bach sbach@well.sf.ca.us ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 15 Apr 1994 15:52:15 ECT Reply-To: Indexer's Discussion Group Sender: Indexer's Discussion Group From: luz marina quiroga Subject: subject access to networked information ----------------------------Original message---------------------------- I am sending this message to several lists; sorry for crosspostings. ---- Free text seems to be the approach to retrieve information with tools like Archie, Gopher/Veronica, Wais, Webs. I would like to know about ongoing projects and research dealing with subject access to networked information. What are (or should be) the principles / theories / assumptions underneath that research? It is worth doing this kind of research in an environment as dynamic as Internet? I would appreciate your information, comments, ideas Luz Quiroga Indiana University ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 18 Apr 1994 16:40:00 ECT Reply-To: Indexer's Discussion Group Sender: Indexer's Discussion Group From: "BITNET list server at BINGVMB (1.7f)" Subject: INDEX-L: error report from INDIANA.EDU Date: Fri, 15 Apr 1994 15:55:58 -0600 (EST) From: "Stephen P. Harter [Steve]" Subject: Re: Printer recommendations To: Indexer's Discussion Group In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Just a little addition to Carolyn's comment. "Crispness" of print has everything to do with the paper used. With the right paper (paper used for laser printers, and _some_, but not all, colored xerox-type papers, I've found the HP inkjet to be just as crisp as laser printers. With other papers, yes, it's true that the output is a little blurred. Steve Harter ================================================= On Fri, 15 Apr 1994, Carolyn Kidder wrote: > Paula, > > I just purchased a new computer and printer for my home office. The > printer I purchased is an HP deskjet printer, I believe the number was > 550C. It prints colors and many different fonts (we also purchased a > Fantastic Fonts CD-rom, and while testing it out I have been able to > use all of the fonts I want). It certainly doesn't print as crisply as > the laser printers I have access to at work, but I have been quite > pleased with it so far. It also was available in my price range, > between $300 and $400. > > Since you don't have to invest in the entire computer system, it might > be worth your while to get the lazer printer. > > Hope this helps. > > Carolyn Kidder > cf470@cray.com ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 18 Apr 1994 16:47:34 ECT Reply-To: Indexer's Discussion Group Sender: Indexer's Discussion Group From: Pam Rider Organization: ElectriCiti, San Diego, CA, USA Subject: Re: printers ----------------------------Original message---------------------------- I have a Canon bubble jet BJ-200. Close, but not as crisp as laser. It's terrific. I almost had enough in my laser fund when my dot matrix went out (oh, happy day). The Canon will make a superior back-up for when I have my laser. The wisest of friends suggest that anyone with a home office have a back-up printer. I would suggest a Canon BJ-200 to anyone. But, consider both a bubble jet and a laser printer. That way you won't be stuck if one goes out. pam rider ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 18 Apr 1994 16:50:32 ECT Reply-To: Indexer's Discussion Group Sender: Indexer's Discussion Group From: "LINDER, ELLIOTT" Subject: Re: subject access to networked information ----------------------------Original message---------------------------- In case this may be helpful to you, the NASA STI Program sponsored a study by the U of MD, the final report for which is entitled "A Comparison of Boolean-based Retrieval to the WAIS System for Retrieval of Aeronautical Information: Final Report." It is NASA Contractor Report 4569. If you are interested in obtaining a copy contact the Center for AeroSpace Information (CASI) help desk at (301) 621-0390 or e-mail help@sti.nasa.gov. Elliott Linder NASA STI Program/Information International Associates (703) 416-5624 elinder@sti.nasa.gov ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: subject access to networked information Author: "Indexer's Discussion Group" at CCMGATE Date: 4/15/94 17:42 ----------------------------Original message---------------------------- I am sending this message to several lists; sorry for crosspostings. ---- Free text seems to be the approach to retrieve information with tools like Archie, Gopher/Veronica, Wais, Webs. I would like to know about ongoing projects and research dealing with subject access to networked information. What are (or should be) the principles / theories / assumptions underneath that research? It is worth doing this kind of research in an environment as dynamic as Internet? I would appreciate your information, comments, ideas Luz Quiroga Indiana University ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 19 Apr 1994 15:48:06 ECT Reply-To: Indexer's Discussion Group Sender: Indexer's Discussion Group From: Rosemary Simpson Subject: indexing for CD-ROM and online access ----------------------------Original message---------------------------- Does anyone have experience in qualified-term indexing for online documentation and for CD-ROMs? By "qualified-term" I mean **real** index entries, entries that provide context-specifiers for terms, **not** just keywords or key-phrases. My specific concern has to do with the retrieval role of the index in a full-text retrieval system. I have an ongoing debate with a colleague who claims that CD-ROM and online indexes should contain long laundry lists (sometimes running to 4 or 5 lines) in order to facilitate retrieval. Two entries in this style, each of which refers to one document, follow: "systems management, image management systems, usage, vendor/product selection and implementation process, system costs and expected return, future expansion and adoption plans, current attitudes, and use of workflow, end-user survey" and "Gates/FA Distributing, Inc., agreements, with Micropolis for high-performance network drives and fault-tolerant array subsystems, with Mustek Inc. for scanners, with ScanSource for barcode and auto-identification equipment, and joint venture with SunSoft for license of Interactive Unix System" I contend that the best index for CD-ROM full-text retrieval systems is just the opposite - a well-crafted, structure-revealing index, an index that shows the various "ecosystems in the forest" as well as key elements. I feel that her approach is confusing and redundant. Opinions? Suggestions for further information? Thanks, Rosemary Simpson, Indexing Unlimited ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 19 Apr 1994 15:54:01 ECT Reply-To: Indexer's Discussion Group Sender: Indexer's Discussion Group From: Ray Schwartz Subject: ASIS SIG/CR's 5th Classification Research Workshop - Call for Papers. ----------------------------Original message---------------------------- CALL FOR PARTICIPATION 5th ASIS SIG/CR Classification Research Workshop QUESTIONS, CONTROVERSIES AND CONCLUSIONS IN CLASSIFICATION RESEARCH The American Society for Information Science Special Interest Group on Classification Research (ASIS SIG/CR) invites submissions for the 5th ASIS Classification Research Workshop, to be held at the 57th Annual Meeting of ASIS in Alexandria, VA. The workshop will take place Sunday, October 16th, 1994, 8:30 a.m. - 5:00 p.m. ASIS '94 continues through Thursday, October 20th. The CR Workshop is designed to be an exchange of ideas among active researchers with interests in the creation, development, management,representation, display, comparison, compatibility, theory, and application of classification schemes. Emphasis will be on semantic classification, in contrast to statistically based schemes. Topics include, but are not limited to: - Warrant for concepts in classification schemes. - Concept acquisition. - Basis for semantic classes. - Automated techniques to assist in creating classification schemes. - Statistical techniques used for developing explicit semantic classes. - Relations and their properties. - Inheritance and subsumption. - Knowledge representation schemes. - Classification algorithms. - Procedural knowledge in classification schemes. - Reasoning with classification schemes. - Software for management of classification schemes. - Interfaces for displaying classification schemes. - Data structures and programming languages for classification schemes. - Image classification. - Comparison and compatibility between classification schemes. - Applications such as subject analysis, natural language understanding, information retrieval, expert systems. The CR Workshop welcomes submissions from various disciplines. Those interested in participating are invited to submit a short (1-2 page single-spaced) position paper summarizing substantive work that has been conducted in the above areas or other areas related to semantic classification schemes, and a statement briefly outlining the reason for wanting to participate in the workshop. Submissions may include background papers as attachments. Participation will be of two kinds: presenter and regular participant. Those selected as presenters will be invited to submit expanded versions of their position papers and to speak to those papers in brief presentations during the workshop. All position papers (both expanded and short papers) will be published in proceedings to be distributed prior to the workshop. The workshop registration fee is $35.00. Traditionally, a revised version of the proceedings is published the following year as a volume of Advances in Classification Research (ASIS Monograph Series, published by Learned Information, Medford, New Jersey, USA) Submissions should be made by email, or diskette accompanied by paper copy, or paper copy only (fax or postal), to arrive by May 15, 1994, to: *Raya Fidel, Graduate School of Library and Information Science, University of Washington, FM-30, Seattle, WA 98195; Internet: fidelr@u.washington.edu; Phone: 206-543-1888; Fax: 206-685-8049* ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 20 Apr 1994 09:11:12 ECT Reply-To: Indexer's Discussion Group Sender: Indexer's Discussion Group From: Norm Howden Subject: Re: indexing for CD-ROM and online access ----------------------------Original message---------------------------- Rosemary, Gee, those look like descriptors to some extent, but a lot more like subject headings. Is there a thesaurus to go with that or are we just supplementing the full text with free language phrases? Most databases that I know about have a depth of indexing of between 10 and 20 terms per record. Unless there is a thesaurus, this kind of indexing does not add much to subject access. Norm Howden +---------------------------------------------------------------+ | Norman Howden | | | | School of Library and Information Sciences | | University of North Texas | | howden@lis.unt.edu (817) 565-2760 | +---------------------------------------------------------------+ ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 20 Apr 1994 09:11:43 ECT Reply-To: dh19@cornell.edu Sender: Indexer's Discussion Group From: David Hoffman Subject: Indexing Job ----------------------------Original message---------------------------- Index needed for book on Russian social history of the 1930s (peasant migration to Moscow, labor politics, urban sociology and culture). Page proofs available immediately, and index due at publisher (Cornell Univ. Press) on May 19th. Text is 250 pages. Please contact me directly (I am not a member of this list) at dh19@cornell.edu. Include a description of your experience and a cost estimate. Thanks. ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 21 Apr 1994 09:17:33 ECT Reply-To: Indexer's Discussion Group Sender: Indexer's Discussion Group From: Lori Lathrop <76620.456@CompuServe.COM> Subject: indexing for CD-ROM and online access ----------------------------Original message---------------------------- In response to Rosemary Simpson (skylark@world.std.com), who asks: > Does anyone have experience in qualified-term indexing for online > documentation and for CD-ROMs? By "qualified-term" I mean **real** > index entries, entries that provide context-specifiers for terms, > **not** just keywords or key-phrases. > My specific concern has to do with the retrieval role of the index > in a full-text retrieval system. I have an ongoing debate with a > colleague who claims that CD-ROM and online indexes should contain > long laundry lists (sometimes running to 4 or 5 lines) in order to > facilitate retrieval. > Two entries in this style, each of which refers to one document, > follow: > "systems management, image management systems, usage, vendor/product > selection and implementation process, system costs and expected return, > future expansion and adoption plans, current attitudes, and use of > workflow, end-user survey" > and > "Gates/FA Distributing, Inc., agreements, with Micropolis for > high-performance network drives and fault-tolerant array subsystems, > with Mustek Inc. for scanners, with ScanSource for barcode and > auto-identification equipment, and joint venture with SunSoft for > license of Interactive Unix System" > I contend that the best index for CD-ROM full-text retrieval systems > is just the opposite - a well-crafted, structure-revealing index, > an index that shows the various "ecosystems in the forest" as well as > key elements. I feel that her approach is confusing and redundant. > Opinions? Suggestions for further information? Rosemary -- The Brady Guide to CD-ROM by Laura Buddine and Elizabeth Young: Brady - Simon & Schuster, Inc. (1987) - ISBN # 0-13-080631-5 - contains a 14-page section on indexing. I can't quote all of it here; however, here's a quote from the first two paragraphs: "... Indexes speed up data retrieval and reduce unnecessary trips to the disc to find data. It is easier and faster to search through the index than to search all the records or documents in the database. An index can be sorted, but the data need not be stored in any sorted order. Multiple indexes that are sorted differently can point to the same records. An index can be of fixed length (to speed the search through the data itself), but the records can be variable length. "CD-ROM databases typically use two different kinds of indexes -- key record indexes and fully inverted word indexes." The authors provide several examples of both key record indexes and fully inverted word indexes; neither of them look like the example in your posting. Inverted indexes are very similar to back-of-the- book indexes; of course, the main difference is that they show a location (rather than a page reference). If you would like a photocopy of these pages, just send me an SASE and I'll be happy to drop it in the mail for you. Lori Lathrop -----------> INTERNET:76620.456@compuserve.com Lathrop Media Services P.O. Box 808 Georgetown, CO 80444 ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 21 Apr 1994 09:19:22 ECT Reply-To: Indexer's Discussion Group Sender: Indexer's Discussion Group From: "Neva J. Smith" Subject: Need Cindex help ----------------------------Original message---------------------------- Cindex users- *Help* please! I'm having difficulty getting my current index sorted. The problem is that the articles that are *supposed* to be ignored when sorting are _not_ ignored. The sort works fine for the subheadings, but not for main headings. I have re-written the "Ignore prefix" field in Set Sort. I have added terms to the "Ignore prefix" field, such as: "The, \iThe to try to account for punctuation and control codes. I have exported my index into a newly created index. I'm beginning to think I will have to go in and invert the pesky articles in the main headings by hand. (!) I have read and reread the manual. Even used the index! What can you suggest? Reply to njsmith@bga.com Neva J. Smith DataSmiths Information Services, & njsmith@bga.com Editor, _Library_Currents_ ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 21 Apr 1994 17:07:42 ECT Reply-To: Indexer's Discussion Group Sender: Indexer's Discussion Group From: drumhill@aol.com Subject: Re: Need Cindex help ----------------------------Original message---------------------------- njsmith I have a couple of suggestions off the top of my head. One is to try a different sort paramenter--sor/letter instead of sor/word, for example. If that fails, try enclosing your articles in curly braces {}. I do this for numbers, e.g., {nineteen}1971 to get them to sort in proper sequence. If you use set keys to do this for {a} {an} and {the}, you can save a lot of time. Hope these suggestions work out for you. Jim ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 21 Apr 1994 17:08:17 ECT Reply-To: Indexer's Discussion Group Sender: Indexer's Discussion Group From: Carolyn Weaver Subject: Re: Need Cindex help In-Reply-To: <9404211749.AA28710@carson.u.washington.edu> ----------------------------Original message---------------------------- Enclose non-sorting characters in < > in the headings, and be sure to include any spaces that you don't want sorted inside the brackets. Example: Wind in the Willows. Works fine for me. Carolyn Weaver Bellevue, Wa. e-mail: cweaver@u.washington.edu voice: 206/930-4348 On Thu, 21 Apr 1994, Neva J. Smith wrote: > ----------------------------Original message---------------------------- > Cindex users- *Help* please! > > I'm having difficulty getting my current index sorted. The problem is that > the articles that are *supposed* to be ignored when sorting are _not_ > ignored. The sort works fine for the subheadings, but not for main > headings. > > I have re-written the "Ignore prefix" field in Set Sort. > > I have added terms to the "Ignore prefix" field, such as: "The, \iThe to > try to account for punctuation and control codes. > > I have exported my index into a newly created index. > > I'm beginning to think I will have to go in and invert the pesky articles > in the main headings by hand. (!) > > I have read and reread the manual. Even used the index! > > What can you suggest? > > Reply to njsmith@bga.com > > > Neva J. Smith DataSmiths Information Services, & > njsmith@bga.com Editor, _Library_Currents_ > =========================================================================