From: SMTP%"LISTSERV@BINGVMB.cc.binghamton.edu" 2-MAR-1996 08:58:07.05 To: CIRJA02 CC: Subj: File: "INDEX-L LOG9601D" Date: Sat, 2 Mar 1996 08:37:04 +0000 From: BITNET list server at BINGVMB (1.8a) Subject: File: "INDEX-L LOG9601D" To: CIRJA02@GSVMS1.CC.GASOU.EDU ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 22 Jan 1996 10:03:14 ECT Reply-To: Indexer's Discussion Group Sender: Indexer's Discussion Group From: Nan Badgett <76400.3351@compuserve.com> Subject: Re: Subcontractors ----------------------------Original message---------------------------- Some of the issues the IRS looks at regarding employee vs. contractor include: Do you control when the contractor works for you? Do they work at your place of business of their own? Do you control how they do the work? Are they paid by the hour? Do you withhold taxes? I think the withholding issue is one of the biggest differences between contractors and employees. I worked for a government agency in a temporary job for FOUR years -- they paid me by the hour AND withheld taxes, told me when to work, but considered me a contractor and paid me no benefits. Go figure!! I currently do regular, in-house editorial work for one client. I invoice him on a monthly basis and I control when I work. Best, Nan Badgett Word-a-bil-i-ty ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 22 Jan 1996 10:03:27 ECT Reply-To: Indexer's Discussion Group Sender: Indexer's Discussion Group From: Nan Badgett <76400.3351@compuserve.com> Subject: Re: Advice ----------------------------Original message---------------------------- I have to agree that software if much like other things -- you get what you pay for. I've used CINDEX for about a year now and have been very pleased with the results. You might review the ASI publication which reviews indexing software for an overview of all the choices. Nan Badgett Word-a-bil-i-ty ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 22 Jan 1996 10:03:39 ECT Reply-To: Indexer's Discussion Group Sender: Indexer's Discussion Group From: "Neva J. Smith" Subject: Denver: have room, will share ----------------------------Original message---------------------------- Greetings, fellow indexers: I'm looking forward to the Denver conference so much that I've already booked a room at the conference hotel! I booked a double and would like to share it with a (nonsmoking) indexer. The room is booked for the nights of May 16-18 (Thurs., Fri., and Sat. nights). Let me know if you'd like to share. Neva = < +> = * = < +> = * = < +> = * = < + > = * = < + > = * = < + > = * = < + > = Neva J. Smith, MLIS DataSmiths Information Services PO Box 2157, Round Rock, TX 78680-2157 njsmith@bga.com & voice/fax +1-512-244-2767 Editor, _Library Currents_ PO Box 2199, Round Rock, TX 78680-2199 ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 22 Jan 1996 10:03:51 ECT Reply-To: Indexer's Discussion Group Sender: Indexer's Discussion Group From: Carol Roberts Subject: Govt. committee names ----------------------------Original message---------------------------- I'm indexing an art history book, and I'm running across the occasional government committee name. Since I rarely index government stuff, could someone who does please tell me the correct way to list this: House Committee on Public Works Following Mulvany's _Indexing Books_, pp. 178-79, it looks like it should be like this: Public Works, House Committee on Should it somehow be double-posted? Like maybe this: Committee on Public Works, House (U.S. Congress) Or is that overkill? According to Wellisch's _Indexing from A to Z_, p. 68, I should list it this way: United States. House Committee on Public Works But why would anyone look up "United States" in an art history book? If they did, they'd be looking for something like American art vs., say, Viennese art. Thanks, y'all. Cheers, Carol Carol Roberts, indexer and copy editor | Life is good. Carol.Roberts@mixcom.com | Milwaukee, WI | ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 22 Jan 1996 10:04:15 ECT Reply-To: Indexer's Discussion Group Sender: Indexer's Discussion Group From: Sonsie Conroy Subject: Re: Subcontractors In-Reply-To: <199601182244.OAA19374@biggulp.callamer.com> ----------------------------Original message---------------------------- Yes, Michele, these people definitely are independent contractors. You should keep accurate records of what and when you pay them, and if any of them earn more than $600 in a calendar year (if you are a calendar-year taxpayer) you'll need to issue a 1099 informing the IRS and the contractor of exactly what you paid them. The $600 figure may have changed a bit; it may be more now. You can call the IRS or check in any reputable tax-preparation guide that has information about Form 1099 (which should be any of 'em). Good luck. =Sonsie= sconroy@slonet.org ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 22 Jan 1996 10:10:06 ECT Reply-To: Indexer's Discussion Group Sender: Indexer's Discussion Group From: REvans4@aol.com Subject: Re: Subcontractors ----------------------------Original message---------------------------- In a message dated 96-01-19 00:11:21 EST, you write: >I have an opportunity to take on a big indexing job in which I could use one >or two people to assist me. I think I need to consider these people >independent subcontractors, in order to avoid paying benefits, etc. I have >found the people, I just don't know how to pay them. The simplest answer is that you pay them by cash, check, or whatever and at the end of the year give them a form 1099 with a total paid. The slightly more complicated answer is that you might want to have them sign an agreement that they are working for hire and are not your employees. Furthermore, there are some practices that the IRS construe as implying employment whether you claim them as employees or not. For instance, if they work at your site using your equipment, they may claim that they were your de facto employees and the IRS would support them. If you have an accountant, ask him for guidelines. Dick Evans ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 22 Jan 1996 10:10:23 ECT Reply-To: Indexer's Discussion Group Sender: Indexer's Discussion Group From: REvans4@aol.com Subject: Re: Scooby Doo ----------------------------Original message---------------------------- In a message dated 96-01-19 00:11:05 EST, you write: >>"...you can scan from the right to get the rightmost occurrence using >>rindex()." And there is Scooby Doo, pronouncing Windex. >>******************************************** > > >Craig, sounds like a Perl of am example of an old thread: "Automatic >Indexing Horror Stories". Maybe, maybe just an example of whimiscal indexing. I sometimes run across a trivial item that I nevertheless think might stick with the reader who thereafter might want to go back and find it. Dick Evans ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 22 Jan 1996 10:10:39 ECT Reply-To: Indexer's Discussion Group Sender: Indexer's Discussion Group From: Locatelli@aol.com Subject: Re: Subcontractors ----------------------------Original message---------------------------- Michele F. DeYoe asked about independent contractors. There are fairly strict IRS rules on what constitutes an employee, so you need to be aware of the following. (And it doesn't matter whether or not you call a person an employee or independent contractor, the IRS uses its guidelines to determine what they are.) An employer usually provides: place of employment, all necessary working materials, etc. An employer controls: methods of working, hours of work, workflow, etc. Assumedly the indexers being hired will work at their own locations using their own materials and keeping their own hours. You should prepare a letter of agreement stating that they are being hired as independent contractors, including details of the finished work they will be expected to provide and the timeline for the project. Then you just send them a check when the work is completed. However, if the amount you pay them is over $600 (when I last did this) you need to provide the individuals with 1099-MISC at the end of the year and file the appropriate information with the IRS. Those forms simply give the individual's name, address, social security number, and the gross amount paid. Your local IRS office has guidebooks on the information you need to properly file the returns. Of couse, you could just become part of the black market, but that of course is at your own risk. And I, as a law-abiding citizen, would no recommend breaking the law. P.S. You can also visit an accountant who should be able to help you, with only a modest fee. ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 22 Jan 1996 10:11:17 ECT Reply-To: becohen@prairienet.org Sender: Indexer's Discussion Group From: "Barbara E. Cohen" Subject: Re: Subcontractors ----------------------------Original message---------------------------- If you are working with subcontractors, you would be wise to write a contract stating what work will be done, by whom, when it is due, and what supplies, etc. will be provided or not. It should be a clear statement so the IRS won't challenge the arrangement as one of employer-employee. Contact you CPA or attorney for details of what the contract should state. -- Barbara E. Cohen Indexing & Editorial Services Champaign, IL ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 22 Jan 1996 10:11:31 ECT Reply-To: Indexer's Discussion Group Sender: Indexer's Discussion Group From: Dwight Walker Subject: Coalition for Networked Information White Paper on Networked information discovery and retrieval ----------------------------Original message---------------------------- Greetings! I just read about this Web link in Jan 96 inCite: It's URL is: http://www.cni.org/projects/nidr/www/toc.html ------------------------------------------------------------------- 'Kerry Webb's web -- the inCite internet pages' also have a URL: http://www.alia.org.au/alia/incite/articles/webb's-web.html They're great reading... I usually skim through Kerry's writings each month - he always has good quality links for the library and info management sector. It is printed by Aust. Lib. and Info Assoc., Canberra, Australia. -------------------------------------------------------------------- BTW I have put links to these on the AusSI Web site: http://www.zeta.org.au/~aussi/resource.htm and http://www.zeta.org.au/~aussi/inetindx.htm If you're stuck for the Web data (only have email) mail me and I'll convert it to plain text and send it to you via email. How's that for service... ;) Cheers Dwight ---------------------------------------------------------- Dwight Walker, Sydney, Australia tel +61-2-3986726 (h) +61-2-4393750 (w), fax (work) +61-2-4383729 My Home Page: http://www.zeta.org.au/~dwalker AusSI Home Page: http://www.zeta.org.au/~aussi ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 22 Jan 1996 10:11:47 ECT Reply-To: Indexer's Discussion Group Sender: Indexer's Discussion Group From: Isawriter@aol.com Subject: Re: Genus/species ----------------------------Original message---------------------------- A while back I posted a reply to this thread and gave the web address of Microlytics as a supplier of electronic dictionaries. I was politely informed offlist that the web address mentioned nothing of electronic dictionaries, so I did a little more research and discovered that Microlytics was acquired by a company called Inso (formerely InSoft International). The brunt of the conversation was that they do make and distribute electronic dictionaries, primarily to other software providers. The person I talked with, Peter Feloney, said they would be willing to work with end users, though. I do not know what kinds of dictionaries they have. I can, however, provide their web address and their USPS address if anyone is interested in pursuing the matter. http://www.inso.com Inso Corp. 31 St. James Ave. Boston, MA 02116-4101 (617) 753-6500 (617) 753-6666 (fax) Sorry for the original misinformation. Craig Brown ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 23 Jan 1996 10:26:40 ECT Reply-To: Indexer's Discussion Group Sender: Indexer's Discussion Group From: HFyfield3@aol.com Subject: Re: Advice ----------------------------Original message---------------------------- I just bought Soft PC to work with a demo copy of CINDEX for my MAC Preforma. It's not working - some things on the demo copy come out fine - but there's alot of "gunk." And of course I can never get technical support phone service. Are problems with SOFT PC the norm? Or could it just be my demo copy of CINDEX. Help ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 23 Jan 1996 10:27:09 ECT Reply-To: Indexer's Discussion Group Sender: Indexer's Discussion Group From: Sonsie Conroy Subject: Re: Govt. committee names In-Reply-To: <199601221540.HAA24699@biggulp.callamer.com> ----------------------------Original message---------------------------- Carol, if you were doing a book on some aspect of government, I'd index the committee under its full name (House Committee on Public Works) and under House of Representatives, Committee on Public Works. Since this is an art history book and the committee is most likely merely a tangental mention, I'd put it under its own full name as used in the text. If you think you might end up with several different organizations such as this, not necessarily all governmental, I'd try to figure out a general category to index them ALL under as well (in addition to their individual entries). Maybe something like Art, public support of.... or Art, government support of. =Sonsie= ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 23 Jan 1996 10:27:27 ECT Reply-To: Indexer's Discussion Group Sender: Indexer's Discussion Group From: Kevin Mulrooney Subject: Re: Subcontractors ----------------------------Original message---------------------------- Michele F. DeYoe wrote: >----------------------------Original message---------------------------- >I have an opportunity to take on a big indexing job in which I could use one >or two people to assist me. I think I need to consider these people >independent subcontractors, in order to avoid paying benefits, etc. I have >found the people, I just don't know how to pay them. > Nan and Sonsie summarized very well the official requirements for subcontractor vs. employee status. My only 2 cents is that these requirements are very clear and assuming you follow them, this is a very straightforward issue. The new emphasis by the IRS on this issue and others like the home-office deduction is based on clear abuses such as the "rent-an-employee" scheme that some doctors have been using to avoid giving their employees the same benefits and percs they get. In other words about 95% of the time understanding where the IRS is coming from eliminates needless worry and accountants fees (or allows you to spend money where accountants can do you some good). All the good tax advice books like Lasser's and H&R Block have detailed sections describing actual cases and tax court rulings on this and other issues of concern to the self-employed. It very soon becomes clear what they *are* and *are not* concerned with. Good luck on your project!! Kevin Mulrooney ------------------------------------------------------------------- Dyslexics of the world untie! First State Indexing (302) 738-2558 276 East Main Street Indexer@inetcom.net Newark, Delaware 19711 ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 24 Jan 1996 09:42:42 ECT Reply-To: Indexer's Discussion Group Sender: Indexer's Discussion Group From: Isawriter@aol.com Subject: Re: Advice on SoftPC ----------------------------Original message---------------------------- HFyfield3@AOL.COM wrote: >>I just bought Soft PC to work with a demo copy of CINDEX for my MAC Preforma. It's not working - some things on the demo copy come out fine - but there's alot of "gunk." And of course I can never get technical support phone service. Are problems with SOFT PC the norm? Or could it just be my demo copy of CINDEX.<< I am running CINDEX under Soft PC on my Mac Performa with no problems. I did have a shortcoming with Soft PC regarding the sound. It kept turning it off. I found the e-mail address for Insignia Solutions (the creators of Soft PC) and wrote them. They were quick to answer and accurate. I'd suggest you write them at: mactech@isinc.insignia.com In your e-note, include your Mac configuration (memory, disk size, Performa model number, system software version, etc.) Give them a precise description of what happens (or doesn't happen). You need to be a little more specific than "gunk." Using e-mail for technical problems sure beats sitting on hold on the phone for hours. Also, just an opinion. I don't think it is likely that CINDEX is not working properly. It is what they call "mature" software with all the major bugs eradicated. Good luck! Write me directly if you have any questions. Craig Brown ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 24 Jan 1996 09:42:50 ECT Reply-To: Indexer's Discussion Group Sender: Indexer's Discussion Group From: "Solomon, Paul" Organization: UNC Subject: 7th Classification Research Workshop ----------------------------Original message---------------------------- CALL FOR PARTICIPATION 7th ASIS SIG/CR Classification Research Workshop: An interdisciplinary meeting The American Society for Information Science Special Interest Group on Classification Research (ASIS SIG/CR) invites submissions for the 7th ASIS Classification Research Workshop, to be held at the 59th Annual Meeting of ASIS in Baltimore, MD. The workshop will take place Sunday, October 20th, 1996, 8:30 a.m. - 5:00 p.m. ASIS '96 continues through Thursday, October 24th. The Classification Research Workshop is designed to promote the exchange of ideas among active researchers with interests in classification creation, development, management, representation, display, comparison, compatibility, theory, and application. Emphasis will be on semantic classification, in contrast to statistically based schemes. Topics include, but are not limited to: - Applications such as subject analysis, natural language understanding, information retrieval, expert systems. - Automated techniques to assist in creating classification schemes. - Bases for semantic classes. - Classification algorithms. - Comparison and compatibility between classification schemes. - Concept acquisition. - Data structures and programming languages for classification schemes. - Image classification. - Inheritance and subsumption. - Interfaces for displaying classification schemes. - Knowledge representation schemes. - Procedural knowledge in classification schemes. - Reasoning with classification schemes. - Relations and their properties. - Representation and access on the Internet. - Software for management of classification schemes. - Statistical techniques used for developing explicit semantic classes. - User-based classification strategies. - Warrant for concepts in classification schemes. The Classification Research Workshop welcomes submissions from various disciplines. Those interested in participating are invited to submit: 1) a short (1-2 page single-spaced) position paper summarizing substantive work that has been conducted in the above areas or other related areas, 2) a statement briefly outlining the reason for wanting to participate in the workshop, and 3) a brief (1 page) personal statement describing research interests. * Submissions may include background papers as attachments. Submitted position papers will be refereed for acceptance. The authors of accepted position papers will be asked to submit an expanded version. Some of the authors of expanded papers will be invited to speak to their papers in brief presentations during the workshop. All expanded papers will be published in the preliminary proceedings and posted to all early registrants prior to the workshop. After the workshop, authors will be given the opportunity to revise their papers for final publication of the proceedings by Information Today, Inc. Early registration fees for ALL PARTICIPANTS are $35.00 for SIG/CR members and/or participants with expanded papers; $45.00 for ASIS members; $60.00 for non-members. (As the workshop is separate from the ASIS Annual Meeting, an additional registration is required for the Annual Meeting). Previous proceedings are titled "Advances in Classification Research: proceedings of the ... ASIS SIG/CR Classification Workshop" and are published by Information Today, Inc., 143 Old Marlton Pike, Medford, NJ 08055. Tel: 609/654-6266. Submissions should be made by email (preferred), or by paper copy (fax or postal), to arrive by April 15, 1996, to: Paul Solomon, CB# 3360, School of Information & Library Science, University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill, Chapel Hill, NC 27599-3360, USA Work Phone: 919-962-8068; Fax: 919-962-8071; Home Phone: 919-933-3893; Email: solomon@ils.unc.edu URL: http://cpmcnet.columbia.edu/www/asis/crwork.html Email or Postcard confirmations will be sent upon receipt of submissions. For additional information, email solomon@ils.unc.edu or access URL: http://cpmcnet.columbia.edu/www/asis/crwork.html ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 24 Jan 1996 16:53:50 ECT Reply-To: Indexer's Discussion Group Sender: Indexer's Discussion Group From: JClendenen@aol.com Subject: South Central Mtg ----------------------------Original message---------------------------- I would like to officially welcome all interested parties to the following workshop in Houston: ASI South Central Regional Chapter Meeting DATE: April 13, 1996 LOCATION: Doubletree Hotel at Intercontinental Airport, 15747 JFK Blvd. Houston, TX 77032 SCHEDULE OF EVENTS: 9:00 a.m. - 12:00 p.m. Editing an Index for Quality and Usability by Lori Lathrop 12:00 a.m. - 1:00 p.m. Luncheon Buffet at Doubletree South Central Chapter Business Meeting 1:00 p.m. - 4:30 p.m. Editing an Index for Quality and Usability by Lori Lathrop COSTS: REGISTRATION: ASI members--$45 Non-members--$50 Registration includes the all-day workshop, plus mini-continental breakfast, hot buffet lunch and post lunch snacks. Please make your check for registration payable to "South Central Chapter of ASI" and send to Laura Rustin 9731 Greenwillow Houston, TX 77096 Receipts will be provided at the meeting. LODGING: --$59 per night Call the Doubletree at 1-800-810-8001 or 713-442-8000. In order to receive the above rate, you must mention the American Society of Indexers conference, and in order to guarantee availability, you must place your reservation by Mar. 22, 1996. After that date reservations will be accepted on a space- and rate-available basis. DIRECTIONS: The Doubletree Hotel is located on the west side of JFK Blvd. on the way out of the Intercontinental Airport. The Doubletree provides shuttle service from the airport to the hotel. Ask about the shuttle when you make reservations. For those driving in, JFK Blvd. is east of I 45 off of Beltway 8 (Sam Houston Tollway). Drive north on JFK Blvd. toward the airport and you will see the hotel on the left. The hotel has a spacious parking lot and does not offer valet parking. If you have any questions, please e-mail Joanne Clendenen at JClendenen@aol.com or J_Clendenen@msn.com (I'm comparing services at present), or call me at (713)469-4461. Hope to see you in April! JC ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 26 Jan 1996 16:40:53 ECT Reply-To: Indexer's Discussion Group Sender: Indexer's Discussion Group From: ON_MARY@4cty.org Subject: Dedicated indexing software-genealogy ----------------------------Original message---------------------------- Hi! I am in need of help with what I am sure is an all too common query. My library is researching indexing programs which will enable me to create several different types of searchable, genealogy related indexes. Included in the array of potential indexes are: obituary, marriage, death, vertical file headings, and a keyword index to over 1,300 columns. The minimum number of fields we will need is ten. At this time we are also looking for a new computer on which this program will be installed. Can anyone provide any suggestions for either A) what indexing software will be most suitable OR B) what sources are available for reviews of indexing software? Thank you in advance, Mary Harris Huntington Memorial Library Oneonta, NY 13820 on_mary@4cty.org ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 26 Jan 1996 16:41:06 ECT Reply-To: Indexer's Discussion Group Sender: Indexer's Discussion Group From: Isawriter@aol.com Subject: Names ----------------------------Original message---------------------------- I am indexing a book of narratives regarding the events surrounding Kristallnacht. Some authors refer to leading figures in the semi-anonymous style, such as "Friedrich F." I will probably index these with parenthetical identifiers, such as "(Nuremberg school offical)." Anyone have suggestions where it should be inserted into the index? F., Friedrich (Nuremberg school official) or Friedrich F. (Nuermberg school official) Or any other suggestions? TIA, Craig Brown