From: SMTP%"LISTSERV@BINGVMB.cc.binghamton.edu" 6-JAN-1997 10:31:31.55 To: CIRJA02 CC: Subj: File: "INDEX-L LOG9612E" Date: Mon, 6 Jan 1997 09:43:59 +0000 From: BITNET list server at BINGVMB (1.8a) Subject: File: "INDEX-L LOG9612E" To: CIRJA02@GSVMS1.CC.GASOU.EDU ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 29 Dec 1996 05:26:47 EST Reply-To: Indexer's Discussion Group Sender: Indexer's Discussion Group From: Lori Lathrop <76620.456@COMPUSERVE.COM> Subject: Re: we may not be who we seem ... (chat) This thread reminds me of the time one of my corporate clients thought I was an imposter when I showed up at their site to deliver an indexing workshop. You see, a few weeks before my workshop at the client site, Intercom (the STC magazine) had published some tips I wrote on giving presentations, and (get this!) the photo they used with the article showed a bubbly blond behind a podium. Of course, many STC folks who had never met me (including the tech writers who worked for my client) naturally assumed that *I* was the bubbly blond in the photo. Consequently, when I arrived at the client site, I was quite baffled by the "cool" reception I got. You see, they thought that the *real* Lori Lathrop must have been too busy to come and had sent an imposter to deliver the workshop! Of course, I didn't realize that; however, it was very fortunate that I happened to show the workshop participants a photocopy of the article I wrote for ASI's KeyWords newsletter on indexing with Doc-To-Help ... and it was *very* fortunate that the KeyWords article also had my photo with it (the *real* Lori Lathrop!). Of course, I was once again baffled when the documentation manager & the workshop participants shared a look of pure relief after seeing the KeyWords article. Some of the tech writers took me out for dinner that nite and explained that, until I showed them a copy of my KeyWords article, they had all suspected that I was an imposter!!! :-D The moral of the story: You can't trust anything you see in print, whether it's online or in a professional organization's publications!!! Happy indexing .... Lori ****************************************************************** Lori Lathrop ---------->INTERNET:76620.456@compuserve.com Lathrop Media Services, P.O. Box 3065, Idaho Springs, CO 80452 Office: 303-567-4447, ext. 28 / Fax: 303-567-9306 ****************************************************************** ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 29 Dec 1996 14:57:06 EST Reply-To: Indexer's Discussion Group Sender: Indexer's Discussion Group From: Kirk Williams <102501.1172@COMPUSERVE.COM> Subject: Income Potential? Hello to All: I'm looking at Indexing as one of the possibilities as a career change and I'm trying to get a handle on income potential. I would like to be able to support a family and save for retirement, and I'm wondering if this can fulfill the requirement, or if I'm in dreamland. I've looked at information provided by some offering courses, but I'm wondering what those who are actually working are experiencing in their own businesses. What page rates are people charging? What kind of monthly/annual page production are you averaging? How many hours monthly/annually are you working/billing? What kind of expenses as a percentage of revenue are you experiencing? Appreciate your feedback, Kirk Williams ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 29 Dec 1996 15:22:29 -0500 Reply-To: Indexer's Discussion Group Sender: Indexer's Discussion Group From: Locatelli@AOL.COM Subject: Re: Income Potential? The American Society of Indexers is just mailing a salary survey to its members that will answer many of the questions that Kirk Williams posed. Although it will be several months before the survey results are available, I think it will be worth waiting for. Fred Leise "Between the Lines" Indexing and Editorial Services ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 29 Dec 1996 15:27:29 -0500 Reply-To: Indexer's Discussion Group Sender: Indexer's Discussion Group From: Locatelli@AOL.COM Subject: Re: Income Potential? The American Society of Indexers if currently mailing a salary survey to its members that will answer many of the questions that Kirk Williams had. Although it will be severl months before the results are received, tallied, and published, I believe they will be well worth the wait. Fred Leise "Between the Lines" Indexing and Editorial Services ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 29 Dec 1996 15:36:39 -0500 Reply-To: Indexer's Discussion Group Sender: Indexer's Discussion Group From: Locatelli@AOL.COM Subject: Re: Income Potential? The American Society of Indexers is currently mailing a salary survey questionnaire to its members that will answer just the questions that Kirk Williams has asked. Although it will be several months before the results are published, I think they will be well worth waiting for. Fred Leise "Between the Lines" Indexing and Editorial Services ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 29 Dec 1996 15:41:06 -0500 Reply-To: Indexer's Discussion Group Sender: Indexer's Discussion Group From: Locatelli@AOL.COM Subject: Re: Income Potential? The American Society of Indexers if currently mailing a salary survey to its members that will answer many of the questions that Kirk Williams had. Although it will be severl months before the results are received, tallied, and published, I believe they will be well worth the wait. Fred Leise "Between the Lines" Indexing and Editorial Services ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 29 Dec 1996 20:34:36 -0500 Reply-To: Indexer's Discussion Group Sender: Indexer's Discussion Group From: Roberta Engleman Subject: Re: Alphabetizing theory In-Reply-To: <96Dec23.193316-0500_est.7184-64396+150@email.unc.edu> I've worked as a librarian in research libraries for 20+ years. When card catalogs were still the main way of accessing the collection, in my experience they were almost always word-by-word. After I started indexing, I found that most of my clients (university presses) specify letter-by-letter, which is also the way online library catalogs are likely to be ordered. I have always found word-by-word to be the more intuitive and to collocate similar entries better. I wish more presses favored that arrangement. Is word-by-word harder for automated systems to sort? If so, it might be seen less and less. But I hope not. _____________________________________________________________________ Roberta Engleman ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 29 Dec 1996 21:15:09 -0500 Reply-To: Indexer's Discussion Group Sender: Indexer's Discussion Group From: JPerlman@AOL.COM Subject: Re: Income Potential? Kirk, The ASI Salary Survey will tell it all. In the meanwhile, I can tell you that there are those of us who earn quite well, and are able to live and put away some .... but not without working very hard. No 40 hour week here. Much more, but that is usually because publishers' schedules often slip, wrecking the freelancer's orderly sensible schedule, and creating crises over and over again. If one doesn't schedule so tightly, one's income potential is severely impacted. It is always dangerous to quote rates, especially publicly. I would say that $2 per indexable page (or somewhat lower, unfortunately) will be the lowest rates, and they can go up to $5 and $6 and more, if you are an expert in something, have a lot of experience, amazingly talented at what you do, and/or are a good marketer and negotiator. You can find yourself plodding along at 5-10 pages per hour in indexing, or can whiz through 100 or more a day ... depending on the subject matter and your expertise, both. That too will affect your earnings, obviously. All in all, it's hard to say what any one person's income potential is. There are too many variables. In a word, you won't find money dropping into your lap in this business. My take on it is that if you love it, are good at it, and are a good businessperson and willing to work hard, it is possible to make a good living. Just my two cents, of course, Janet Perlman Southwest Indexing ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 30 Dec 1996 09:56:57 -0500 Reply-To: Indexer's Discussion Group Sender: Indexer's Discussion Group From: Sanindex@AOL.COM Subject: Re: Income Potential? If you are a member of ASI, you will be receiving a work habits rate survey in mid January. We will be compiling the date and responding with factual information by early May. Sandi Schroeder, chmn. ASI Rate Survey Committee ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 30 Dec 1996 11:13:20 -0500 Reply-To: Indexer's Discussion Group Sender: Indexer's Discussion Group From: Alicia Subject: Indexers in Florida In-Reply-To: <199612301454.JAA01421@scfn.thpl.lib.fl.us> Hello. I'm new to the list. I'm looking into indexing as a home-based sideline. Are there any indexers in Central or West Florida who might be looking for help? I am a librarian with the Tampa-Hillsborough Public Library System. I thought this would be a good way to try the field and get some experience. Please respond to me directly. Thanks! --Alicia Alicia Ellison hopet@scfn.thpl.lib.fl.us ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 30 Dec 1996 11:56:11 -0500 Reply-To: Indexer's Discussion Group Sender: Indexer's Discussion Group From: Alicia Subject: Indexers in Florida (fwd) I am resending this message, as i received a "failed message notification" that i'm unsure about. Please excuse any duplication. Hello. I'm new to the list. I'm looking into indexing as a home-based sideline. Are there any indexers in Central or West Florida who might be looking for help? I am a librarian with the Tampa-Hillsborough Public Library System. I thought this would be a good way to try the field and get some experience. Please respond to me directly. Thanks! --Alicia Alicia Ellison hopet@scfn.thpl.lib.fl.us ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 30 Dec 1996 11:44:49 +0000 Reply-To: Indexer's Discussion Group Sender: Indexer's Discussion Group From: BESSANTR@ACAD.RIPON.EDU Subject: Re: Alphabetizing theory Roberta Engleman wrote (23 Dec 96): >Is word-by-word harder for automated systems to sort? If so, it might be >seen less and less. But I hope not. The Library of Congress published new machine-based filing rules about 10 years ago that are still word-by-word, and I can't think of any automated catalog I've used that doesn't use word-by-word filing. I thought the reason word-by-word filing works so nicely for computer-filing is that filing by ASCII values put spaces before letters. But now that I check my handy-dandy ASCII code list, I see that filing by ASCII values alone would file all capital letters before lower-case letters. So there must be a more sophisticated algorithm than just ASCII values that is being used. The big change that the machine-based filing rules made for libraries was filing numerals as numerals (before letters), and filing abbreviations as they appear. In manual card catalogs, we did a lot of "filed as though spelled" filing -- spelling out numbers and some abbrevations (and other things like Mc...) In my new life as a copyeditor and pretty-soon indexer, I have found one situation where letter-by-letter filing was actually helpful. When I check my Webster's Collegiate Dictionary to find out whether a word is spelled as one word or two, I'm glad I only have to look in one place (and also don't have to worry about how this reference source treats hyphens). Just for fun, especially those of you who live in larger cities, check the filing rules in the front of your telephone yellow pages. (I used to use yellow pages filing rules as examples when my students asked "why does this have to be so complicated?" about filing rules.) Ruth Bessant, Indexer & Editor bessantr@acad.ripon edu ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 30 Dec 1996 16:19:16 -0700 Reply-To: Indexer's Discussion Group Sender: Indexer's Discussion Group From: Katherine Ultican Subject: acronyms, limited double posting of -Reply Wouldn't it depend on the book's intended audience? Techies would need only one or the other, but neophytes would probably need both. PS: New to the list, I index articles of state and local interest that appear in the newspaper THE IDAHO STATESMAN. Katherine Ultican, Albertsons Library, Boise State University ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 30 Dec 1996 20:38:15 -0800 Reply-To: Indexer's Discussion Group Sender: Indexer's Discussion Group From: Ann Truesdale Subject: Ergonomics: Glidepointer I decided to try an Alps Glidepointer on my Toshiba laptop, which has a trackball that attaches to the right side of the computer. I just hooked it up yesterday, and I'm hooked. Happy, happy thumb!! Will see if the humidity problem bugs me next summer, being in steamy coastal SC. -- Ann Truesdale "The tenacity of a habit is usually in proportion to its absurdity." Marcel Proust ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 31 Dec 1996 08:29:09 -0500 Reply-To: Indexer's Discussion Group Sender: Indexer's Discussion Group From: Hazel Blumberg-McKee Subject: Re: Ergonomics: Glidepointer In-Reply-To: <199612310637.BAA07677@polaris.net> On Mon, 30 Dec 1996, Ann Truesdale wrote: > I decided to try an Alps Glidepointer on my Toshiba laptop, which has a > trackball that attaches to the right side of the computer. I just hooked > it up yesterday, and I'm hooked. Happy, happy thumb!! Will see if the > humidity problem bugs me next summer, being in steamy coastal SC. I'd be really interested to hear how Ann's Glidepoint fares during humid times. I really liked my Glidepoint touchpad on nonhumid days, which number about five per year here in Tallahassee. (It's been in the 70s and dripping with humidity the past few days; we just had hard freezes a few weeks ago, so go figure.) I had to switch to a trackball (actually, I guess it counts as a thumbball), and I've really been enjoying the ease of use. Hazel Hazel Blumberg-McKee (hazelcb@polaris.net), Tallahassee, Florida, USA "The closest anyone ever comes to perfection is on a job application form."--Unknown ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 31 Dec 1996 10:17:54 +0000 Reply-To: Indexer's Discussion Group Sender: Indexer's Discussion Group From: Bert Boyce Subject: Re: 11th Day of Christmas I thought that the list might enjoy a graphic answer to this question. On the Twelfth Day of Christmas, my true love gave to me: Twelve Drummers Drumming .-} .-} .-} |_| |_| |_| (_) (_) __ (_) .---. | \ .--. | \.' 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Boyce, Professor & Dean School of Library & Information Science Louisiana State University 267 Coates Hall Baton Rouge, LA 70803 (504)388-3158 FAX: (504)388-4581 LSBOYC@LSUVM.sncc.lsu.edu ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 31 Dec 1996 10:22:37 -0400 Reply-To: Indexer's Discussion Group Sender: Indexer's Discussion Group From: Rachel Rice Subject: Re: Ergonomics: Glidepointer In-Reply-To: <199612311335.IAA12996@maildeliver0.tiac.net> I got an ALPS Glidepoint (I returned the keyboard with the pointer I mentioned a while back) and love it. I was told if it sticks in humidity to try a finger cot, like a little condom for your finger. You can get them at the drugstore. Or you can put talc on your hands. Or there's some place you can order a membrane to stick onto the surface of the touchpad, but I don't know where to get it. I'll try to find out. Seems to me if it's a known problem, the company ouught to provide the membrane, or at least know where to get it. Rachel >On Mon, 30 Dec 1996, Ann Truesdale wrote: > >> I decided to try an Alps Glidepointer on my Toshiba laptop, which has a >> trackball that attaches to the right side of the computer. I just hooked >> it up yesterday, and I'm hooked. Happy, happy thumb!! Will see if the >> humidity problem bugs me next summer, being in steamy coastal SC. > >I'd be really interested to hear how Ann's Glidepoint fares during humid >times. I really liked my Glidepoint touchpad on nonhumid days, which >number about five per year here in Tallahassee. (It's been in the 70s and >dripping with humidity the past few days; we just had hard freezes a few >weeks ago, so go figure.) I had to switch to a trackball (actually, I >guess it counts as a thumbball), and I've really been enjoying the ease of >use. > >Hazel > >Hazel Blumberg-McKee (hazelcb@polaris.net), Tallahassee, Florida, USA > "The closest anyone ever comes to perfection > is on a job application form."--Unknown Rachel Rice Directions Unlimited Desktop Services Chilmark, Mass. rachelr@tiac.net; http://www.tiac.net/users/rachelr/ ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 31 Dec 1996 10:52:13 +0000 Reply-To: Indexer's Discussion Group Sender: Indexer's Discussion Group From: BESSANTR@ACAD.RIPON.EDU Subject: Re: alphabetizing theory I'm sending this again (to the non-Bitnet address) because I got an error message. (Seems like we've been having trouble with this a lot lately on index-l.) ------------------------original message----------------------------- Roberta Engleman wrote (23 Dec 96): >Is word-by-word harder for automated systems to sort? If so, it might be >seen less and less. But I hope not. The Library of Congress published new machine-based filing rules about 10 years ago that are still word-by-word, and I can't think of any automated catalog I've used that doesn't use word-by-word filing. I thought the reason word-by-word filing works so nicely for computer-filing is that filing by ASCII values put spaces before letters. But now that I check my handy-dandy ASCII code list, I see that filing by ASCII values alone would file all capital letters before lower-case letters. So there must be a more sophisticated algorithm than just ASCII values that is being used. The big change that the machine-based filing rules made for libraries was filing numerals as numerals (before letters), and filing abbreviations as they appear. In manual card catalogs, we did a lot of "filed as though spelled" filing -- spelling out numbers and some abbrevations (and other things like Mc...) In my new life as a copyeditor and pretty-soon indexer, I have found one situation where letter-by-letter filing was actually helpful. When I check my Webster's Collegiate Dictionary to find out whether a word is spelled as one word or two, I'm glad I only have to look in one place (and also don't have to worry about how this reference source treats hyphens). Just for fun, especially those of you who live in larger cities, check the filing rules in the front of your telephone yellow pages. (I used to use yellow pages filing rules as examples when my students asked "why does this have to be so complicated?" about filing rules.) Ruth Bessant, Indexer & Editor bessantr@acad.ripon edu ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 31 Dec 1996 09:34:48 -0800 Reply-To: Indexer's Discussion Group Sender: Indexer's Discussion Group From: Sonsie Subject: Re: Ergonomics: Glidepointer At 08:29 AM 12/31/96 -0500, Hazel Blumberg-McKee wrote: >I'd be really interested to hear how Ann's Glidepoint fares during humid >times. I really liked my Glidepoint touchpad on nonhumid days, which >number about five per year here in Tallahassee. (It's been in the 70s and >dripping with humidity the past few days; we just had hard freezes a few >weeks ago, so go figure.) I had to switch to a trackball (actually, I >guess it counts as a thumbball), and I've really been enjoying the ease of >use. What qualifies as "high humidity," Hazel? Around here, we average about 30-40% humidity in the summer (right now in my office, it is 70%, but it's been raining all morning). A friend gave me a Alps Glidepoint he didn't like, and I downloaded the latest softward from the Alps Web Site for Windows 95...but I haven't taken the time to hook it up yet. I don't want to fall in love with it and then have to give it up because of a physical drawback like humidity. Also, can one of you tell me if you use your fingertip to move around the little pad, or a pointer of some sort? =Sonsie= ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 31 Dec 1996 12:53:02 -0600 Reply-To: Indexer's Discussion Group Sender: Indexer's Discussion Group From: Carol Roberts Subject: Indexing in Europe My husband and I are *considering* spending a year in Germany. Naturally, the question of what would happen to my indexing business arose. If any Canadian or U.S. indexers have taken a "sabbatical" in Europe, I'd appreciate hearing how that affected your business. Were you able to get your clients to send page proofs to Europe? Did you offer to eat the extra shipping cost? Did it take significantly longer to send/receive shipments? Did you lose clients? Did you pick up new clients in Europe? I would also appreciate hearing from indexers in Europe who have North American clients. Thanks for any and all info. Cheers, Carol Roberts, indexer and copy editor | I'm not into working out. My Carol.Roberts@mixcom.com | philosophy: No pain, no pain. Milwaukee, WI | -- Carol Leifer ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 31 Dec 1996 14:27:29 -0500 Reply-To: Indexer's Discussion Group Sender: Indexer's Discussion Group From: Hazel Blumberg-McKee Subject: Re: Ergonomics: Glidepointer In-Reply-To: <199612311806.NAA14240@polaris.net> On Tue, 31 Dec 1996, Sonsie wrote: > What qualifies as "high humidity," Hazel? When I first got my Glidepoint touchpad and started having problems with it, I think I wrote in to Index-L. Someone kindly told me that high humidity could be the problem. In Tallahassee in the summer, most days start out at nearly 100% humidity. That descends throughout the day until the humidity's at about 60% to 70%. Winter is a bit drier, but we're having high temperatures (mid- to upper 70s) of late, accompanied by pretty high humidity. In addition, my office, which is in a separate building, isn't air-conditioned. A ceiling fan keeps me cool. I suspect that if my office were air-conditioned, or if I had a dehumidifier in here, the touchpad would've worked better. > Also, can one of you tell me if you use your fingertip to move around the > little pad, or a pointer of some sort? From what I remember of the manual that came with the touchpad, you should use your finger and *not* a pointer. I think that the instructions said something about a pointer possibly marring the touchpad. I'll bet that the Glidepoint'll work fine for you. Hazel Hazel Blumberg-McKee (hazelcb@polaris.net), Tallahassee, Florida, USA "The closest anyone ever comes to perfection is on a job application form."--Unknown ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 31 Dec 1996 14:57:30 -0500 Reply-To: Indexer's Discussion Group Sender: Indexer's Discussion Group From: LLFEdServ@AOL.COM Subject: Re: Ergonomics: Glidepointer Sonsie, I can't tell you about humidity, because I dumped the glidepoint after about 2 days trial. I use a logitech trackball now and love it. I used my finger for the glidepoint and found I had to hold my arm and hand in one tense position for too long a period of time. I don't know whether this was due to humidity or not. I don't think it was particularly humid in San Diego in August. But my finger didn't seem to glide smoothly and tapping didn't always work. I had to hit it in just the right way. I found it annoying as well as uncomfortable. In fact, I tried to unload my glidepoint in August. I still have it tucked away on a shelf in my office. Best of luck, Leslie LLF Editorial Services BTW, It's raining and extraordinarily windy here, too. ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 31 Dec 1996 15:21:46 -0800 Reply-To: Indexer's Discussion Group Sender: Indexer's Discussion Group From: Sonsie Subject: Re: Ergonomics: Glidepointer At 02:27 PM 12/31/96 -0500, Hazel Blumberg-McKee wrote: >>From what I remember of the manual that came with the touchpad, you should >use your finger and *not* a pointer. I think that the instructions said >something about a pointer possibly marring the touchpad. > >I'll bet that the Glidepoint'll work fine for you. Thanks, Hazel. If I can ever clear my desk far enough down to find the darned thing and hook it up, I will give it a try. I think I will like it, too, once I get the hang of using a new device. =Sonsie= ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 31 Dec 1996 15:21:48 -0800 Reply-To: Indexer's Discussion Group Sender: Indexer's Discussion Group From: Sonsie Subject: Re: Ergonomics: Glidepointer At 02:57 PM 12/31/96 -0500, LLFEdServ@AOL.COM wrote: >I can't tell you about humidity, because I dumped the glidepoint after about >2 days trial. I use a logitech trackball now and love it. I used my finger >for the glidepoint and found I had to hold my arm and hand in one tense >position for too long a period of time. Leslie, the friend that gave me the Glidepoint switched from that to a trackball. When I visited his place the last time, he had three different trackballs attached to his computers, and I tried them all out. I would say that within half an hour I had gotten the hang of using that device and liked it pretty well. Of course, the proof is in the pudding...the long hours one spends using a mouse (particularly in W95 or with a Mac) can really wear out your clicking fingers. Since the Glidepoint was free, I'll give it a reasonable trial. But if I notice any sort of strain after that, I'll get myself a trackball and try THAT for a week or two. I know I won't be able to stay with a regular mouse permanently, now that I'm using W95 and having to do everything via clicks and clacks. =Sonsie=