From: SMTP%"LISTSERV@BINGVMB.cc.binghamton.edu" 2-SEP-1996 19:24:45.15 To: CIRJA02 CC: Subj: File: "INDEX-L LOG9608A" Date: Mon, 2 Sep 1996 19:24:16 +0000 From: BITNET list server at BINGVMB (1.8a) Subject: File: "INDEX-L LOG9608A" To: CIRJA02@GSVMS1.CC.GASOU.EDU ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 1 Aug 1996 18:38:34 -0700 Reply-To: Indexer's Discussion Group Sender: Indexer's Discussion Group From: Christi Diamond Subject: Non-indexing request Warning - this is not directly related to indexing so please delete immediately if you're very busy :-). Hello everyone, My curiosity has been sparked by the number of people who have the terms editorial and information services in their business names. I'd be very interested to know what people are doing in those areas, particularly proofreading and research. I've had some difficulty locating people in my area, Portland, OR, (except for the very nice person I met today - Hi Karen) who are doing similar work, so I thought I'd expand and give the list a try. If you feel like sharing any information or advice I'd love to hear from you! Please email me at cdiamond@hevanet.com Thanks! Christi ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 2 Aug 1996 09:26:15 -0400 Reply-To: Indexer's Discussion Group Sender: Indexer's Discussion Group From: Charlotte Skuster Subject: Rocky Mountain Indexing Conference (fwd) From: Lori Lathrop, 76620,456 Date: Thu, Aug 1, 1996, 8:21 PM From Ingrid Becher, Secretary for the ASI-Colorado Chapter: First notice! The Colorado Area Chapter is pleased to announce its second annual Rocky Mountain Indexing Conference on October 12, 1996. Barbara Cohen of Cohen Indexing and Editorial Services, Champaign, IL, will join us to present a workshop entitled "Intellectual Analysis in Indexing," and Susan Klement will be here from Tucson, AZ, to present a workshop entitled "Open-System Indexing." The full-day conference will again be held at the main Boulder Public Library. Details on registration and fees will be available soon. Ingrid Becher ihbecher@aol.com ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 2 Aug 1996 09:24:14 -0800 Reply-To: Indexer's Discussion Group Sender: Indexer's Discussion Group From: Janet Mccrorey Subject: Re: Non-indexing request Christi, I do editorial services as a sideline in Los Angeles area. I am also a librarian so I can do electronic researching and normal researching, which people are referring to as information services. If you want any more information let me know at SANJOS004@fullerton.edu, Janet mccrorey ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 5 Aug 1996 17:11:06 -0500 Reply-To: Indexer's Discussion Group Sender: Indexer's Discussion Group From: DEBBY DILL Subject: USDA correspondence courses Hi, I am very interested in indexing as a career and have many questions. I would appreciate any advice that anyone can give, but I have two specific questions. I will be finishing up my MLS from the University of North Texas in December. I would have dearly loved to have been able to take the indexing and abstracting course offered there, but have not been able to since I commute a very long way to school and have been able to pick and choose classes based only upon my schedule. (I have been juggling school with a full time job) My questions are these: How would you evaluate the USDA correspondence courses in basic indexing and applied indexing? (If there is anyone who teaches this class on the listserv, I would love to hear from you.) and What other options might I have concerning education and training in this specific field? Thanks for any help you can offer. Debby Dill Howard Payne University Library Brownwood TX 76801 ddill@hputx.edu ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 5 Aug 1996 12:21:38 -0700 Reply-To: Indexer's Discussion Group Sender: Indexer's Discussion Group From: nmulvany@WELL.COM Subject: Volunteer Indexing Project The San Francisco AIDS Foundation is looking for volunteer indexers to help with the indexing of their Guide to Resources. If you are interested, contact: Susanne George SF AIDS Foundation (415) 487-8027 ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 5 Aug 1996 20:14:17 -0400 Reply-To: Indexer's Discussion Group Sender: Indexer's Discussion Group From: "Alice G. Klingener" Subject: Too Many Page References Hello, As an inexperienced indexer working on a first "real" project, I'd like your advice and combined wisdom on finding a way to differentiate large groups of page locators. Here's the situation. I'm working with a professor who is editing a collection of papers to be published in a hardcover volume. I have one book in the series as an example. It has one overall index for about 15 contributed papers, and it is lightly indexed (2-3 entries per page). However, certain terms, names, concepts, recur throughout the papers at about the same level of generality (i.e. main heading, occasionally subentry) resulting in long strings of locators - covering each author's contribution to the concept. The normal practice of further breakdown of the entry terms may strain reality or just plain not work. Can anyone suggest a way, perhaps by typography, of distinguishing page locators in a volume like this? Thanks a lot for any help. Sally ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sally Klingener email: skling@mailsrv-unix.oit.umass.edu Biology Department tele: (413) 545-0449 University of Massachusetts fax: (413) 545-3243 Amherst, MA 01003 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 5 Aug 1996 21:23:29 -0400 Reply-To: Indexer's Discussion Group Sender: Indexer's Discussion Group From: Stephanie Liva Subject: Indexing animation I am currently taking a course in Indexing and Abstracting and am researching the methods and issues surrounding indexing of animated films. I have found very little written on the subject. Anyone have experience or a direction in which to point me? Stephanie Liva ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 5 Aug 1996 22:24:46 -0400 Reply-To: Indexer's Discussion Group Sender: Indexer's Discussion Group From: "Mary D. Taffet" Subject: Indexing WWW sites In-Reply-To: <199608060126.VAA07537@mailbox.syr.edu> I am taking the same course Stephanie is taking, and the genre I have chosen to research is WWW sites. I have some ideas myself, and our group has found an article or two, but I would be very interested in any literature sources (print or Internet-based) or thoughts that anyone has on this subject. BTW -- our presentations are due Saturday, 8/10, so timely responses would be much appreciated. -- Thank you, Mary Taffet On Mon, 5 Aug 1996, Stephanie Liva wrote: > I am currently taking a course in Indexing and Abstracting and am > researching the methods and issues surrounding indexing of animated films. > I have found very little written on the subject. Anyone have experience > or a direction in which to point me? > > Stephanie Liva > ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 5 Aug 1996 22:03:56 -0700 Reply-To: Indexer's Discussion Group Sender: Indexer's Discussion Group From: Roberta Horowitz Subject: Re: Indexing WWW sites In-Reply-To: <199608060239.TAA05473@mail6.netcom.com> You might want to check out OCLC as they have a project of indexing WWW for their First Search Service which is available at many libraries. OCLC 614 764-6086 Roberta Horowitz roberta@netcom.com roberta@netcom.com On Mon, 5 Aug 1996, Mary D. Taffet wrote: > I am taking the same course Stephanie is taking, and the genre I have > chosen to research is WWW sites. I have some ideas myself, and our group has > found an article or two, but I would be very interested in any literature > sources (print or Internet-based) or thoughts that anyone has on this subject. > > BTW -- our presentations are due Saturday, 8/10, so timely responses would > be much appreciated. > > -- Thank you, > Mary Taffet > > On Mon, 5 Aug 1996, Stephanie Liva wrote: > > > I am currently taking a course in Indexing and Abstracting and am > > researching the methods and issues surrounding indexing of animated films. > > I have found very little written on the subject. Anyone have experience > > or a direction in which to point me? > > > > Stephanie Liva > > > ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 6 Aug 1996 09:21:05 -0400 Reply-To: Indexer's Discussion Group Sender: Indexer's Discussion Group From: Jennifer Rowe Subject: Portable disk drives Hello, all-- I've been lurking and enjoying the list for some months now. Remembering the discussion some time ago about tape backup systems, I decided it was time I got one. I also need a bigger hard drive. Here's my question: why not get a portable hard drive, the kind with removable cartridges, to meet both needs at once, and at lower cost? Does anyone else use a portable drive for backup? Thanks-- Jenny Rowe ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 6 Aug 1996 09:33:32 -0400 Reply-To: Indexer's Discussion Group Sender: Indexer's Discussion Group From: Marie-Lise Shams Subject: Re: USDA correspondence courses In-Reply-To: <9608052213.AA08869@ciesin.org> I too am interested. I would appreciate very much if the responses are sent to the list or forwarded to me. Thanks. Marie-Lise ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ^ Marie-Lise Shams ^ ^ Information Specialist ^ ^ Consortium for International Earth ^ ^ Science Information Network (CIESIN) ^ ^ 2250 Pierce Road ^ ^ University Center Michigan 48710 ^ ^ phone: +1-517-797-2790 ^ ^ fax: +1-517-797-2622 ^ ^ e-mail: mshams@ciesin.org ^ ^ URL: http://www.ciesin.org ^ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ On Mon, 5 Aug 1996, DEBBY DILL wrote: > Hi, > > I am very interested in indexing as a career and have many questions. I > would appreciate any advice that anyone can give, but I have two > specific questions. I will be finishing up my MLS from the University of > North Texas in December. I would have dearly loved to have been able > to take the indexing and abstracting course offered there, but have not > been able to since I commute a very long way to school and have been > able to pick and choose classes based only upon my schedule. (I have > been juggling school with a full time job) > > My questions are these: How would you evaluate the USDA > correspondence courses in basic indexing and applied indexing? (If > there is anyone who teaches this class on the listserv, I would love to > hear from you.) and What other options might I have concerning > education and training in this specific field? > > Thanks for any help you can offer. > > Debby Dill > Howard Payne University Library > Brownwood TX 76801 > > ddill@hputx.edu > ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 6 Aug 1996 12:01:22 -0700 Reply-To: Indexer's Discussion Group Sender: Indexer's Discussion Group From: cliffu@WELL.COM Subject: Nancy Mulvany's Response to WIRED Article on Indexing WWW For anyone who saw the May, 1996 issue of "Wired," and saw the article on indexing in it, I have posted on my web site a reply to it written by Nancy Mulvany, who, as many of you here know, is a former president of ASI (American Society of Indexers), author of "Indexing Books," an educator of indexers at a library school, and a very, very experienced indexer herself. I've heard from various friends that copies of the Steinberg article have been widely distributed to a lot of librarians and indexers. Nancy's article should be also widely distributed to give a more balanced picture of the issues involved. You can click onto it from the "Author (Other Resources)" link of my home page to get to it. She gives permission for it to be freely distributed. - Cliff Urr http://www.mnsinc.com/curr/ ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 6 Aug 1996 15:54:52 -0400 Reply-To: Indexer's Discussion Group Sender: Indexer's Discussion Group From: john wilson Subject: indexing software for novice medical indexer Are there any advantages of Macrex versus Cindex for medical and scientific indexing? I am a veterinarian currently taking the USDA indexing courses and want to buy indexing software soon. I have a 486 laptop with 8 meg ram, and plan to add a good monitor and standard keyboard to use it as my startup computer. I'm using my brother's e-mail address pending getting my own system setup there, too. I plan to specialize in medical indexing, and would also appreciate any info on how hard it is to break into this field and how competitive it is. Thanks in advance for any words of wisdom. Ann Truesdale ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 6 Aug 1996 16:52:04 -0400 Reply-To: Indexer's Discussion Group Sender: Indexer's Discussion Group From: Craig Brown <104571.560@COMPUSERVE.COM> Subject: Medical Terminology I know we discussed medical terminology at length recently. I wish I had memorized it, but if I didn't. My question is fairly general. My current book has some medical terminology and I am concerned about the alphabetization. Fortunately, my wife has a copy of Stedman's Medical Dictionary. Would I be more or less safe if I follow the alphabetization therein? A specific example is that "T cell" appears as a subentry of the word "cell" as in cell T c. If anyone wishes to reply offlist, we could avoid using a lot of bandwidth for a topic that has been discussed. TIA, Craig Brown The Last Word ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 6 Aug 1996 17:43:42 -0700 Reply-To: Indexer's Discussion Group Sender: Indexer's Discussion Group From: "Heather L. Ebbs" Organization: Editor's Ink Subject: Indexing software/medical indexing Ann Truesdale asked about indexing software. I can't compare Macrex and Cindex, Ann, because I've only used the former, but I can sing its praises. I have used Macrex for 7? 8? years and I love it. A large part of my work is medical indexing, including some moderately complicated medical periodical indexing that goes to 4 sub-levels, e.g. (made up), Universities McGill University, Montreal, Que. Dyspepsia: costs of endoscopy (Tabour) (L) 1227 [reply] (Szul) (L) 1427 Bold print (all main heads), italic print and each indentation level have their own codes developed by my client's typesetter, and Macrex calmly and accurately inserts these as required when it translates it to word processing. There are numerous forced sorting requirements (in the above example, for e.g., a "reply" is forced to come after the original letter; often drugs have numerals that are hidden from the sorting; etc.), which, again, Macrex handles instantly without a whimper. I don't want to go on and on here, but feel free to contact me directly if you want more info. Heather Ebbs editink@istar.ca ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 6 Aug 1996 17:16:12 -0400 Reply-To: Indexer's Discussion Group Sender: Indexer's Discussion Group From: LLFEdServ@AOL.COM Subject: Re: indexing software for novice medical indexer I don't do any medical indexing myself, but I have a friend who does medical indexes almost exclusively. He uses Cindex. Loves it. And chose it because of the medical indexing capabilities. I do know you can purchase extras, including a medical dictionary. If you wish to know more, and others don't have more specific information, feel free to contact me privately. I will try to hook you up with my friend for some better guidance than I can give. Leslie Leslie Leland Frank Editorial Services ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 6 Aug 1996 13:10:45 -0700 Reply-To: Indexer's Discussion Group Sender: Indexer's Discussion Group From: Carolyn Weaver Subject: Re: indexing software for novice medical indexer In-Reply-To: <9608061955.AA24752@mx3.u.washington.edu> Cindex has an optional medical spell checker available, which was the primary reason I chose it over Macrex; and I consider it invaluable for a medical indexer. Carolyn Weaver Bellevue, Wa. e-mail: cweaver@u.washington.edu voice: 206/930-4348 On Tue, 6 Aug 1996, john wilson wrote: > Are there any advantages of Macrex versus Cindex for medical and scientific > indexing? I am a veterinarian currently taking the USDA indexing courses > and want to buy indexing software soon. I have a 486 laptop with 8 meg ram, > and plan to add a good monitor and standard keyboard to use it as my startup > computer. I'm using my brother's e-mail address pending getting my own > system setup there, too. > > I plan to specialize in medical indexing, and would also appreciate any > info on how hard it is to break into this field and how competitive it is. > Thanks in advance for any words of wisdom. Ann Truesdale > ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 6 Aug 1996 10:21:25 -0400 Reply-To: Indexer's Discussion Group Sender: Indexer's Discussion Group From: Daveream@AOL.COM Subject: Re: Portable disk drives I use a zip drive (100Mbyte removable diskettes). I was going to buy a whole new system because everything needed upgrading but my crying need was more disk space. After purchasing the Iomega zip drive I was able to free up enough disk space that I have not yet had to go the bux for the complete system. Each project on completion I dump to a zip disk. If a client calls I can pop that disk in to look at their files. I still use a cartridge tape for actual system backup. Dave ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 6 Aug 1996 19:26:06 -0400 Reply-To: Indexer's Discussion Group Sender: Indexer's Discussion Group From: Rachel Rice Subject: Re: Medical Terminology Craig wrote: >cell > T c. > >If anyone wishes to reply offlist, we could avoid using a lot of bandwidth >for a topic that has been discussed. I for one would like to see any and all replies to anything. If it's not of interest to me I can delete, but I'd rather make that choice myself. Does anyone mind if we just say all replies are welcome to be posted to the list, even if it's been done or whatever? I don't memorize everything either. What do others think? And Dave praised his Zip drive and I want to add my recommendation as well. I back up to it every single time I leave the keyboard and it's fast and roomy. Don't know what I did without it. It's even cheaper now than when I got it. Rachel Rachel Rice Directions Unlimited Desktop Services Chilmark, Mass. rachelr@tiac.net; http://www.tiac.net/users/rachelr/ ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 6 Aug 1996 13:51:17 -0400 Reply-To: Indexer's Discussion Group Sender: Indexer's Discussion Group From: DP1301@AOL.COM Subject: Re: USDA correspondence courses The USDA correspondence course is terrific. The instructors are professional indexers and have their own indexing businesses and can have many students at once--all who are working at their own rate. The feedback I got as I worked through the lessons was excellent, and as sometimes happens I've become friends (and a subcontractor on occasion) with one of my instructors. I had two, but I wouldn't in any way say that the course was uneven as a result. This course can take many months. I enjoyed the beginning of it where you lay out a timeline--I was going to complete it in six weeks. Actually it took nine or ten months. Three of the lessons are indexes and grading them isn't a straightforward thing. Believe me, the feedback is worth your patience. There are never enough instructors and the USDA is delighted to add more whenever anyone wants to give back to the profession. Clearly, having another means of support during this time is important to the future freelance indexer. Jump in! Good indexers are needed in this information age! Deborah Patton Baltimore, MD 410/243-4688 dp1301@aol.com ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 6 Aug 1996 10:28:26 -0400 Reply-To: Indexer's Discussion Group Sender: Indexer's Discussion Group From: WordenDex@AOL.COM Subject: Re: Portable disk drives Check out "Storage: it's not just your hard drive anymore," in PC Novice 1996 Sept, pp.24-30. It covers a second hard drive, Zip drives, 120MB diskette drives, removable hard drives, CD-recordable drives, PD/CD drives, magneto-optical drives, and tape drives. Comparison charts on cost, storage speeds, and pros & cons are included. Diane Worden Kalamazoo, MI ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 7 Aug 1996 07:57:20 +0300 Reply-To: Indexer's Discussion Group Sender: Indexer's Discussion Group From: Harvey Kaniel Subject: Re: Portable disk drives Jennifer: Theoretically it's a good solution. Just be sure the access time of the portable drive is as fast as a standard internal one. Many of the portable drives available today (Jaz, Zip, etc.) are great for backup/archiving, but not fast enough for regular work. HTH Harvey Kaniel At 09:21 AM 8/6/96 -0400, Jennifer Rowe wrote: >Hello, all-- I've been lurking and enjoying the list for some months now. > Remembering the discussion some time ago about tape backup systems, I >decided it was time I got one. I also need a bigger hard drive. Here's my >question: why not get a portable hard drive, the kind with removable >cartridges, to meet both needs at once, and at lower cost? Does anyone else >use a portable drive for backup? > >Thanks-- Jenny Rowe > > ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 7 Aug 1996 03:17:24 -0400 Reply-To: Indexer's Discussion Group Sender: Indexer's Discussion Group From: Janet Russell Subject: Re: indexing software for novice medical indexer I can't speak to the advantages of Cindex or Macrex for medical indexing, except that I would be sure to buy the medical dictionary spell-checker with either. I know from personal experience that Cindex is an excellent program, with outstanding user support. I have heard similar things about Macrex. I would buy the demo versions of both programs and see which one fits your style of working. Be sure you are committed enough to indexing before making a major investment in either program. My first index was done in dBASE II. Although Cindex and Macrex let you do routine things more easily so that you can spend more time on the intellectual aspects of indexing, you can get started with considerably less. Still, power programs are not a minor consideration if you are doing a lot of indexing. I finished the first index I did after I upgraded to Cindex 6.0 in about 1/3 less time. For a minute I thought I was cheating my client! ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 7 Aug 1996 06:38:04 -4:00 Reply-To: Indexer's Discussion Group Sender: Indexer's Discussion Group Comments: Authenticated sender is From: Smokey Subject: Re: Portable disk drives On 7 Aug 96 at 7:57, Harvey Kaniel wrote: > Theoretically it's a good solution. Just be sure the access time of the > portable drive is as fast as a standard internal one. Many of the portable > drives available today (Jaz, Zip, etc.) are great for backup/archiving, but > not fast enough for regular work. The Syquest Removable Hard Drives are perfectly capable of running apps nearly as quickly as a regular hard drive. The SCSI models are particularly adept at this as evinced by my ability to run DOS games from my EZ 135. -- R.J. Imhof -- "That's not a leak...That's just my car marking its territory..." ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 7 Aug 1996 08:18:03 -0400 Reply-To: Indexer's Discussion Group Sender: Indexer's Discussion Group From: "Cynthia D. Bertelsen" Subject: Re: Medical Terminology I just checked the index for the Harvard Guide to Women's Health (Carlson et al., 1996) and "T-cells" are indexed as a separate heading, with another heading under "CD4 (T-cell) count 17, 18. See also T-cells." Of course, it is possible to have "T-cells" as a subheading under "cells" if it is appropriate. For those who have an interested in learning more about medical terminology, there are several books that can help: 1. Chang, David W. (1994). Introduction to Medical Terminology (Workbook), ISBN 0683161938 (about $21.00) 2. Krueger, Peggy M. (1995). The Medical Language; A Programmed, Body-Systems Approach, ISBN 0827356390 (about $20.00) Also Hans Wellisch has an extended section on medical indexing (p. 229-313) in the second edition of his Indexing A to Z (1995). At 04:52 PM 8/6/96 -0400, you wrote: >I know we discussed medical terminology at length recently. I wish I had >memorized it, but if I didn't. My question is fairly general. My current >book has some medical terminology and I am concerned about the >alphabetization. Fortunately, my wife has a copy of Stedman's Medical >Dictionary. Would I be more or less safe if I follow the alphabetization >therein? A specific example is that "T cell" appears as a subentry of the >word "cell" as in > >cell > T c. > >If anyone wishes to reply offlist, we could avoid using a lot of bandwidth >for a topic that has been discussed. > >TIA, >Craig Brown >The Last Word > > Cynthia D. Bertelsen INDEXER http://www.vt.edu:10021/B/bertel/ndx.html ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 7 Aug 1996 07:25:22 CDT Reply-To: Indexer's Discussion Group Sender: Indexer's Discussion Group From: Lonergan Lynn Subject: postings Craig wrote: >If anyone wishes to reply offlist, we could avoid using a lot of bandwidth >for a topic that has been discussed. And Rachel wrote: I for one would like to see any and all replies to anything. If it's not of interest to me I can delete, but I'd rather make that choice myself. Does anyone mind if we just say all replies are welcome to be posted to the list, even if it's been done or whatever? I don't memorize everything either. What do others think? As a periodical indexer/wannabe sometime in the future back-of-the-book indexer/list lurker I'm interested in seeing all discussions. I don't memorize everything, either, but I do print an edited version of many of these conversations for future reference. (It's the librarian in me, I can't help it.) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Lynn A. Lonergan Assistant Editor/Librarian Air University Library Maxwell AFB AL 36112-6424 334-953-2504; fax 334-953-1192 llonergan@max1.au.af.mil ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 7 Aug 1996 09:43:03 -0400 Reply-To: Sam Andrusko Sender: Indexer's Discussion Group From: Sam Andrusko Subject: Re: postings In-Reply-To: <199608071224.IAA73159@rs8.loc.gov> > > And Rachel wrote: > > I for one would like to see any and all replies to anything. If it's not of > interest to me I can delete, but I'd rather make that choice myself. Does > anyone mind if we just say all replies are welcome to be posted to the > list, even if it's been done or whatever? I don't memorize everything > either. > > What do others think? I'd like to see everything too. And like Lynn Lonergan I too often save posts that might be of use later, esp. those from the "elders" of the group--have learned a lot from Janet Perlman, Sonsie Conroy, Sarah Bihlmayer, Lynn Moncrief and others and have saved many posts from them. Sam Andrusko ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 7 Aug 1996 09:12:55 -0700 Reply-To: Indexer's Discussion Group Sender: Indexer's Discussion Group From: Jonathan Sachs Subject: Re: Portable disk drives As Harry wrote, removeable-media drives often fall short on speed. They traditionally have been smaller and less reliable than fixed drives, too. The latest generation of drives (ZIP, etc) have capacities that are respectable, but not remarkable. I can't say they aren't reliable; nor can anybody honestly say they are. They're too new to judge. Overall, I would advise strongly against this approach, simply because the reliability of your primary drive is so important. Any other part of your computer can be replaced if it breaks by a simple application of money. A broken hard drive can also be replaced, but the data can't be replaced, and (unless you have a reliable, current backup) usually can't be recovered. Tell us more about how you use your computer and specifically what appeals to you about the removeable-media drives, and I'll be happy to tell you what I think you should do, as well as what you shouldn't! ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 7 Aug 1996 16:14:02 -0600 Reply-To: Indexer's Discussion Group Sender: Indexer's Discussion Group From: Carol Roberts Subject: Re: Portable disk drives >why not get a portable hard drive, the kind with removable >cartridges, to meet both needs at once, and at lower cost? Does anyone else >use a portable drive for backup? > You didn't say what kind of computer you use, but I use a Mac with a portable Iomega Zip drive (and Diskfit Direct) for backup. Works great. With Diskfit, you can back up your whole system or just selected files. My daily backup is just of my documents and e-mail, and Diskfit does the whole thing (3,000 files) in 30 seconds (on a 120 Mhz computer--your mileage may vary). Certainly if I wanted to, I could also use the Zip drive as an extra hard drive. The Iomega disks hold 100 MB each, and the drive costs around $150 from discount catalog companies like MacZone and MacWarehouse (Diskfit included). BTW, I want to remind everyone, when you post something about computers or software, please indicate whether it's IBM or Mac. Cheers, Carol Roberts, indexer and copy editor | Life is good. Carol.Roberts@mixcom.com | Milwaukee, WI | ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 7 Aug 1996 19:25:14 EDT Reply-To: Indexer's Discussion Group Sender: Indexer's Discussion Group Comments: Converted from OV/VM to RFC822 format by PUMP V2.2X From: NASEM020@SIVM.SI.EDU Subject: Re: Medical Terminology In-Reply-To: note of 08/07/96 08:19 I index medical articles for secondary publishers, and have MeSH (medical subject heading) training. T-cells are indexed under L, for lymphocytes. Either as "Lymphocytes, T" or (from MeSH) as T-Lymphocytes, alphabetized within the _L_s. Since Index Medicus and MedLars set the standards, I would follow their convention when indexing medical subjects. ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 7 Aug 1996 23:52:28 -0400 Reply-To: Indexer's Discussion Group Sender: Indexer's Discussion Group From: Annblum@AOL.COM Subject: ANSI/NISO Z39.75 For many years the American Society of Indexers has maintained an ad hoc committee to review proposed standards that directly affect our organization. ASI is a member of the National Standards Organization (NISO) and has an appointed voting representative. In recent years the ASI Board has been involved in the voting process for ANSI/NISO Z39.4 (Standard on Indexes and Other Related Information Retrieval Devices). The Board has unanimously directed its voting representative to vote in a particular way in regard to Z39.4. While most proposed NISO standards do not directly affect our membership, there is a draft standard circulating for ANSI/NISO Z39.75 (Alphabetical Arrangement of Letters and the Sorting of Numerals and Other Symbols) that is of importance to indexers. ASI members who are interested in commenting on this draft standard may forward their comments to Nancy Mulvany. All comments must be received by Sept. 1, 1996. This proposed standard is not being balloted at this time. This is a comment period only. ASI members may send their comments to : nmulvany@well.com Ann Blum ASI President